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Hey Hud, time to sharpen that little pencil of yours and redo your math as Texas emerges as the latest hotspot in the coronavirus pandemic.

A simple Google search reveals that Daniel Turner has a history as a public relations operative for, among others, the Charles Koch Institute. He also has some experience in planning weddings. He doesn't have any background or education in science. His Power the Future organization is a dark money 501(c)(4) organization, that is not required to identify the source of its funding. It appears to be yet another Koch Brothers front group; however, due to the nature of dark money organizations, that cannot be confirmed. While he doesn't know his ### from a hole in the ground when it comes to climate change, he does know how to get airtime on Fox TV. Turner and Carlson both seem to be math-challenged as well as deficient in reading comprehension. That IPCC report referred to in the interview was issued in 2018...so we're down to 11 years now. The report does not say that the world ends in 2030. It says civilization has until that time to respond to global warming in order to mitigate catastrophic climate change in the future. (I am increasingly convinced that the likes of Jim Bowie, Hud, Hook Em Horns, and a few others who post on this forum, who I refer to as the "Texas Taliban," are fake characters created by MC. If you read TOB, you may be aware that MC has been exposed for creating fake screen identities in order to post there since he is banned from that forum. Sorry I wasted my time in watching the clip and responding to it.)

Let's take a closer look at these young devils and listen to what they have to say. I defy you, MC, to factually verify your claims that these particular young people are poorly educated, misinformed and being manipulated by adults.

How outrageous of these children to demand that the adults tell the truth about climate change, accept responsibility for their actions and clean up their freaking mess!

And 100 countries around the globe... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/15/its-our-time-to-rise-up-youth-climate-strikes-held-in-100-countries

Japan... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/03/16/asia-pacific/science-health-asia-pacific/global-student-led-climate-rally-kicks-off-australia-new-zealand/#.XI6xgihKg2w

Meanwhile, in India... https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/city/hyderabad/hyderabad-school-students-staged-protest-on-climate-change/videoshow/68427238.cms

Here you go, MC... https://www.scmp.com/comment/letters/article/3001861/inaction-climate-change-official-norm-no-wonder-hong-kong-children

Here's some info regarding the April 15 protests. Lots of links to follow in case you want to become involved, including an events page on Facebook. If I find info regarding local events, I'll post it on this forum. https://rebellion.earth/next/

Oh man, look what little Greta hath wrought.

Oh my god, what hath man wrought?

Yeah...I know what you mean. Kinda shocking to consider, isn't it? Here's the short answer. Civilization, as we know it, is based upon the ability to grow and store grains, such as wheat, rice and corn. When human beings learned to do this something like 10,000 years ago, they settled down near the food source, becoming farmers and merchants instead of nomadic hunters and gatherers. They built villages that grew into cities and nations and empires. Due to increasing temperatures, drought, depleted aquifers and depleted soils, future crop yields are projected to lessen, if there is any yield all. Once all the food stores are gone, civilization, as we know it, collapses. Some people use Syria as an example of this process. The Syrian crop failed due to a drought and Assad hoarded what there was for himself and his Alawite clan. The rest is history.

The population bomb has exploded and the methane clathrate fuse has been lit. Tipping points have been passed and self-reinforcing feedback loops have kicked in. Global warming is increasing exponentially and will continue to increase for hundreds of years into the future. The planet is entering a sixth mass extinction event, losing over 150 species every day. Civilization, as we know it, is predicted to collapse about the year 2030...give or take. Once you accept the reality of the situation, you can consider what is realistically possible in mitigating the consequences. Here's an intelligent discussion on exactly that subject.

I would call it cherry-picked data set within a deceptive framing. For one thing, China is the most populous country on the planet, with a population roughly four times that of the U.S. A fair comparison would be based on CO2 emissions per capita. It's late for me...you do the math. I think you'll find that, on a per capita basis, the Chinese emit about half as much CO2 as Americans. For a second thing, China is the largest manufacturer of goods in the world. A good deal of these products are produced for foreign companies for sale and use in foreign countries. A fair comparison would credit the CO2 emissions from these activities to the countries of destination. Don't know what the figures are...but a rough guess tells me it's one whole hell of lot. And if we subtract that amount, then the Chinese are one whole hell of a lot less than half as much of a bunch of polluters as Americans. Why have U.S. CO2 emissions remained flat? Judging from the time frame, my guess is that it's largely due to U.S. companies moving their manufacturing plants to foreign countries...such as China. I don't want to get into an argument about this. If my math is wrong, feel free to correct it. If you disagree with the validity of my methodology, state your case. But I will not respond to your silly questions or your personal insults...that would be beneath my dignity.

Richard Werthamer supervised Exxon's research program that confirmed the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels during the 1970s. He seems to agree with you, Gringal Hope you can forgive him for getting all choked-up like a little girl at the end but, as you can see, he's got a lot on his mind.