36 minutes ago, EldonNova said:

You have to put things in perspective.  How much have you spent on gasoline for the last 12 years, or to maintain a car.  

Hey, Eldon, if it works for you, go for it !!!

35 minutes ago, bmh said:

I wish there could be a thread  that would quit talking about politics. It is a worldwide problem and the US is behind  time wise at getting hit and should learn from the other vrountries rather than bickering.. 

This statement should tell you why not.  Don't do as I say or do, right?  

2 hours ago, ComputerGuy said:

You, my fine feathered friend, who seems to be only interested in passing judgment, completely missed the point. I was responding to a load of BS about what the Chief Moron said/did not say. Squabbling? No, in fact. Oh, BTW, I'm Canadian. This had nothing to do with politics, get it? It had everything to do with fending off BS.

And, of course, jealousy never would enter into your comments, right?

The purpose of limiting everyone's contact with others is Not to save your life. It is to give doctors and hospitals a chance to save the lives of those elderly that are fighting for their lives. Limiting your activity prevents the spread(at least lowers it) so doctors and hospitals do not become swamped and can concentrate their time and resources on the endangered elderly. Think of it as doing something to help save lives of older people. That should make you feel special.

1 hour ago, Alli said:

Seems as though some folks have changed their stories and now have jumped on the Coronavirus bandwagon. Hmmm . . . Stopped watching FOX (fascist, obnoxious xenophobes) News?

How would you know, you are a "newbie" !  What was wrong with you last name here? Too many knew who you were?  

2 hours ago, Bisbee Gal said:

Speaking of Federal and State hospitals, the Veterans Administration (a Federal agency which operates hospitals in almost every state) is trying to duck their responsibility with this cheezy move.  Regardless of their erasing it from their website over the weekend, their mandate remains to help state and local hospitals in times of national emergency.    

 

 

10 minutes ago, tomgates said:

There was a special segment on Fox News with 2 heads of large hospital systems in NYC and they said 88% of people with Covid-19 show symptoms from day 2-5. The 14 day quarantine is for people who have it and the 14 day number is how long it runs its course. 

The hospital systems in the US are state controlled, not Federal. Each state controls their own, not like here. Some states are stronger than others, because of strong leadership, and that is why we see such diversity in reporting. The good ones are beginning to produce significant results. NY has done a good job under the leadership of its governor. Hopefully states will follow some of the things that produce positives from there to protect their own citizens. If only Mexico would get after it seriously ! 

4 minutes ago, gringal said:

Then there is this:

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-predicts-coronavirus-hit-economy-155125701.htmlen there is this:

...which should be  (but probably is not) of interest to those who don't see "big government" in action.

 

Do you understand the role of the Federal Government when it comes to jobs and the economy? I guess not, by your comment. Do you understand the purpose of these checks? This IS the job of the Federal Government. You need a refresher course, or more. Geez, Louise !!!

19 minutes ago, Jreboll said:

Mainecoons, on Feb 11 there were 13 confirmed cases in US.  Now  a little over a month later we have over 5000 cases. Starting to get worried?

In 30 days, that computes to 140 increase per day. Really great compared to other countries. Now, if that can be maintained, wow !!!

27 minutes ago, Jreboll said:

Mainecoons, on Feb 11 there were 13 confirmed cases in US.  Now  a little over a month later we have over 5000 cases. Starting to get worried?

Yes, and yes !

27 minutes ago, Guiness said:

Can we please back off the ugly US politics...not all of us are Americans and it gets very tiring hearing how much you all hate each other. Take a break please..

In Mexico, when it comes to health care, the Federal Government is basically the "daddy " for all Mexicans, as health care is under Federal control, even though states seem to administer it somewhat. So, a slow response by the Feds here is going to really be problematic for this country, as local/state governments have almost no control over health care for their citizens, as NOB. How sad for the older citizens here, no?

12 minutes ago, gringal said:

You mean the Fed is not the "daddy" when it allocate billions of bucks to bail out various sectors of business?  LOL.  It appears that both parties approve when push comes to shove...like right now.  What's happening is that there is just too much politicizing and not enough simple willingness of all to give the needed help in this disaster.

Yep, as I said , many don't understand. Another educated beyond her intelligence.

Just now, RickS said:

Yes, maybe. 😥

You are just probably educated beyond your intelligence, and that is more likely the reason.

1 minute ago, RickS said:

Well your 'understanding' does not track with my 'reality' but that's probably understandable.

Maybe if you majored in government, as I did, you could understand better.
 

10 hours ago, Ferret said:

And here's another GOP member who's leading.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-gov-mike-dewines-coronavirus-response-has-become-a-national-guide-to-the-crisis/ar-BB11hhQe

Quite frankly, I don't care who the President of the U.S. is or what his party affiliation is BUT he better be damn well prepared to surround himself with the best people who know how to do their jobs and how to allocate responsibility to those people.

And, I think that goes double for the city and state officials in the US, as they are the primary line of defense against this virus. They are charged with the health care of their citizens ! Because the US is a Republic, the Federal Government is Not their "daddy" (although there is one party there that wants that to happen). The Feds are just a support group for the States, even tho they seem to be going well above anything they have ever done before to support the States. Remember, all states and local communities there are Not equally ready, thus you are seeing such a different response and results. Easy to blame the Feds when these States fail their responsibility to their citizens, no? Just shows how many don't understand the concept of Republic and its Constitution. Just shows how many don't understand the role of the Feds NOB.

14 minutes ago, mudgirl said:

Yeah, the highest fatality rates from those diseases are from before the concept of germs and how disease is spread was known. Doctors didn't even wash their hands between attending sick patients. People hardly bathed and there were open sewers running down the streets with livestock intermingling with people and rotting food everywhere.

This coronoavirus pandemic just started, we have no idea at the present time how many people it will kill.

I always wonder what, exactly people who love to say things are overblown, media hype or fake news get out of it. Does it make you feel superior?

I don't think they feel superior, JMHO. But I do think it makes those who try to put them down feel superior, Just sayin'

49 minutes ago, Mainecoons said:

Not lower the fear rate here.   

Nearly half of the deaths in Washington State happened in that one nursing home.  They don't have a lot of data for western elderly population morbidity yet but it looks between 5 and 10 percent.  Not great but not the Black Plague either.

Winding down in China and South Korea thanks to very strong social isolation tactics.  That is what works.  That is what we are doing.

I found this, but it is a few days back there: US Surgeon General Jerome Adams said cases would rise, adding the average age of death for people with the virus was 80, and the average age of those needing medical attention was 60. (Outside that age span, not much worry). Sadly, I fit into the near 80 with immune problems. Still, tho, if China is correct, about a 1 in 8 or 9 chance. Could be worse.  

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lamvo/coronavirus-death-rates-age-charts-us-china?fbclid=IwAR3oBQUKOMYYGfKX__EMz7UAPMQUFZovUFyvksNTP5hoCZLBiyseiY-iW70

Anyone find the death rate % by age for those who have died in the US from this virus, Find it for China, but the death rate in the US is lower, and so are other countries. One would think that publishing this death rate stat by age would lower the fear rate . Maybe, that is why it is not published?

In Leon, Gto., every store still uses plastic bags. Nothing has changed.

1 hour ago, More Liana said:

Hi Catbird...I lived in Ajijic for about five years (1999-2004) and still visit occasionally.  I have lived in Morelia for a total of 8 or 9 years, with a break when I lived for 8 years in Mexico City.  I've been back in Morelia for exactly a year.  Morelia is home for me.

Morelia bears absolutely NO resemblance to Lake Chapala--except that as you mentioned, the weather is similar.  It's generally cooler here than there, and can be quite chilly in the winter.  Our altitude above sea level is 6400 feet; Lakeside is at 5200 feet.  

Morelia is a colonial city of 1.2 million people; the English-speaking expatriate community is approximately 300 to 400 people.  The city is extremely cultured, with at least 6 major universities, a symphony orchestra, a chamber orchestra, frequent festivals of importance, including the Morelia international film festival in October-November (considered to be the best film festival in Mexico), the international music festival during the last two weeks of November (concerts range from popular music to classical music, many are free to the public), plus annual jazz, organ, classical dance, and other annual festivals.  

There is no large body of water close to Morelia--Lake Pátzcuaro is about an hour away.  We have a small international airport 45 minutes to an hour northeast of the city.  We have a long-distance bus terminal about 15 minutes from Morelia's Centro Histórico.  We have excellent taxi service and good Uber service.  

There is no organized community of English-speaking foreigners, no animal rescue group of foreigners (that I am aware of), no ladies' lunch groups, no little theatre (although we have two theatres that often have traveling companies of concerts, dance performances, and Spanish-language plays), no 'bar scene' for foreigners, no restaurants oriented to foreigners.  Really, nothing in Morelia is directed to a foreign community.  There is quite a bit of national tourism here, and some foreign tourism---but nothing like the level one sees at Lakeside. 

We treasure and preserve our history, including our culinary traditions.  There is a large indigenous presence here, primarily the Pur'epecha community, whose presence is crucial to our ways of thinking and believing.  

Morelia's Centro Histórico is considered to be the most beautiful in all of Mexico.  Our buildings here are made predominately of cantera stone blocks and date to the mid-1500s.  This is not the colorful tourist-oriented town that, for example, is Ajijic.  We are typically Mexican: conservative and relatively formal in dress, building exteriors, etc.  On the other hand, there are many historical families here, many intellectuals, and quite a bit of non-conservative thinking, music, and art.  We have a number of fine museums and many, many historical buildings in the city.  

Unfortunately, the level of narcoviolencia in and around Morelia is substantially higher than that at Lakeside.

Unlike the Lake Chapala area, we in Morelia are very little influenced by foreign ideas of what central Mexico is like.  

If you have more questions, please ask.  

Can you compare Morelia and Queretaro? Especially Centro Historico. 

We have an LG washer that we bought in 2005. Still working fine. 12KG. Like it so well that 2 years ago bought a new LG  at Sam's Club here for 6995p and took it NOB where we use it often. 19KG. Our dryer here is an old Sears Kenmore electric 220 that we bought NOB for $50 at a garage sale. Works like new, but is old. One of those mustard colors.