Rony

in the PDF of the website is also a phone number : Teléfono: (33) 38376000

I would say : party concerned, claimant

from website state of Jalisco : Quién puede realizarlo? Representante legal Interesado Padres Cualquier persona, en caso de ser menor de edad debe hacerse acompañar por un adulto. https://tramites.jalisco.gob.mx/tramite/26788

according to CUCEI (Centro Universitario de Ciencias Exactas e Ingenierías), the rainy season officially started on June 18th ( from today's El Informador ) Rony

A difficult message to post. Be nice ( to some of you : take your nasty attitudes somewhere else or I simply delete the post ). My friends Jose and Isabel ( the owners of the famous restaurant here in the Chapala plaza ) are ill. Isabel is on a respirator ( last bed in hospital civil in Guad ) and medication is scarce. Jose is recuperating at his son s house in Guad. I dont feel comfortable to discuss their medical condition or cause of illness here. So, plse, respect that. If you would like to help them, you can send them money through OXO to their daughters ( Deniss ) SALDAZO card ( very easy ). ( or Paypal their son in law ) Email me (elbelgicano@yahoo.com ) for a picture of her card. I am sure that they can use help soon. Also, they had to close for the longest time ( no income ). Through their church, Jose and Isabel, have helped a lot of people too. I would like to see some good Karma working here. Thanks for considering this. Rony

poor Peter.

a very nice way of showing your respect to somebody who does his best to speak and write your mother language, Peter. More and more, showing true colours....sorry "colors" . by the way, how many languages do you write and speak ? Perfect Spanish too ? ai...touché

you have a French sense of humour ( I like it ). French ancestors ?

come on, people, dont get your nickers in a twist about something like this. There is a lot that you have to take seriously. This is not part of it,...it falls in the "absurd" category. A couple of months ago, a lot of you, could ONLY make jokes about this virus. Now, it is practically forbidden to look at something more lightheartedly. People and their extremes.....

Xena, are you not slightly overestimating the importance of an opinion of a modest little Belgian😉....especially on a national level.....a country as big as the whole of Europe.... perspective plse. I wont put it on my Twitter account with millions of followers and I wont share this with my friend AMLO. I promise If I had an older grandfather here ( or even 5 grandfathers..... I wish... ), I would give him the same advice. Where is the difference? REALLY not expecting a rush on the sometimes expensive breathing material now. If a few people read this and also buy it and therefore, a few lives might be saved....me happy. That is a bit more realism big hug to you Rony

Always handy to have at this altitude anyway. As a flight attendant, I helped a lot of passengers with it. And if not for yourself, you might be able to save somebody elses life with it and present the most beautiful gift possible. Rony

pure discrimination. So women are allowed to have a moustache ? And how do they know.....if you are wearing a mask ? I agree...time to drink the poison. Hasta la vista, baby

I read in European newspapers that for a lot of people, supply of extra oxygen has been a life saviour (not the ICU respirators, but simply O2 bottles with breathing masks ). They saved prime minister Johnson. Wondering about enough availability of that ( O2 bottles AND/OR O2 generators ) here in Jalisco....especially when a lot more people will need it. Rony

yes, feel free to believe any side you would like. It is not my goal to convince anybody.....just stating " the other side of things ". Like most Mexicans, I tend to be more sceptical of any government source ( they probably meant ceiling ventilators/fans ) ...especially when talking about covid19 ( even to the international press, Mex governmentS have lost all credibility in this ). What a mess they made ! I am behind the real people in the field. I have read and heard enough to believe their side. Up to you or not, to dig deeper And....I dont do wishful thinking. That is not how my mind works....however harsh reality may be

the extra numbers come from "radar jalisco Chapala" ( source = La Página ). 20 in total. And I would be very surprised if that association of doctors would only talk about private hospitals ( since they mention that people are dying because of lack of beds )