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My wife and I were in San Luis Soyatlan two weeks ago looking at properties. There were two houses for sale in San Luis overlooking the park and Lake Chapala. These had for sale signs on them. I am sure there are more in the area. There were several nice looking fracctions in the area. We wound up buying land near San Cristobal another nice little pueblo. Plans are to build a house in a few years. At the moment we are building in Riberas but this area is getting to crowded. Did not see many realtor signs over there. Most sales were by owners. I think prices on the south side will really escalate in the next few years and buying property here will be a wise investment.

We talked to them about it. They were open to suggestions but seemed surprised that was high. They are from Guad. And apparently did not do any market research. The food was ok, not memorable. We won't be back unless things change

At 120 pesos for a glass of wine I think they may not do so well. They should have done more market research. This is a retirement community not Guad.

Hello - my wife and I are entertaining the idea of living over in San Luis Soyatlan. We have been down in the Ajijic/San Antonio area for roughly 20 months cumulatively over 5 years. Love the area, but also note the increasing crowdedness and prices. Our Spanish is alright and we enjoy speaking Spanish. We are mid 40s. I am looking for comments on the following: Boat docking in San Luis Soyatlan & Boat docking in Ajijic or San Antonio. -Our gut feeling is that we would rather not have a car, and prefer bringing down a small boat..would rather run errands on weekly basis in Ajijic (rather than Jocotopec)if possible. We have lived on Lake Atitlan in Guatemala in the past (and enjoyed the boat rides...when the waves weren't coming over the front of the boat . ) Internet speed and reliability - we need the internet for work. Is iLox laying cable on that side of the lake as well? Are Telecable or Telmex available? I have heard that there is Telcel service - is this just a rumor? If anyone has speediest.net data, that is very helpful. As would reliability. Telcel Service - Is it decent? Property sales - Here in Ajijic and S.A., I notice that properties are sold both by realtors and direct sale (though my observation would tell me that there has been a decline in trato directo signs). In SLS, are most sales Trato Directo (this is fine, we don’t mind navigating the system)? We are not necessarily looking for a Fraccionamiento….but would not rule it out either. Any other experiential or anecdotes welcome. We are aware that the town has a more Mexican feel, not to rely on English…etc. Thanks in advance.

Has anyone actually gone in and discussed this with them? They could be on a path to failure, but not know why.

120 pesos for a glass of wine? No thanks! Now I know why it's always empty when I walk past it.

There is too often "a cloud on the title" of much of that property. I have known gringos who have lost their homes after many trials up to the supreme court of Jalisco. The court ruled that since they gringos had built a residence they could live there until they died or moved but then the property went to the pretender who had never paid a centavo of taxes. They seem to come out of the wood work over there. The pretender to the property claimed that the property had belonged to his collective family many years ago and that when it was sold all members of his family had not signed on to the sale. This was several generations ago. We haven't had title companies here in Mexico like in the USA or Canada but several years ago Stewart Title had opened here (Guadalajara). They were actually researching the titles back for many years and if they approved you bought their title insurance. There were many properties they would just not insure. In theory Notarios research the title and insure that it is clear and seller has the right to the property and to the sale. In reality courts often overturn the Notarios decision on the title. I don't know if Stewart Title has survived here. They are really big in Texas. If I couldn't get title insurance I wouldn't play their shell game.