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  1. 18 points
    Moderator, please simply start a section called CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND OTHER BULLSHIT, so we can keep most of our threads rational and avoid the lunacy.
  2. 15 points
    Initially I was excited to find this forum of locals to help me learn and navigate living in a new community and country. The more I read however, the more discouraged I’ve become. What makes the world an interesting place is that we all come from different backgrounds and have varied life experiences which of course lead us to have different thoughts and opinions. One thing we do have in common is that we’ve chosen to make this community our home. Is it possible for us to share, consider the points of view others and even disagree without resorting to nasty personal attacks on this forum? I may be completely off base in posting here, but with all the craziness in the world right now it seems like the perfect time to practice some care, compassion and camaraderie within this community.
  3. 15 points
    listen guys.... I was 33 when I arrived here in Mexico. I am almost 56 now and as a very young expat, unfortunately I have had to say goodbye to a lot of older Canadian and US friends ( unusual to lose that many friends when you are in your thirties and forties ) and every time it hurt and I never got used to it !! Also, a lot of those people left their pets, which didnt always have the best outcome ! The Mex healthcare system ( like others ) will not be able to cope with this tsunami. Authorities mostly ignore the seriousness and hardly do any testing About myself, yes, I am strong enough to admit that I am scared....but more so ( although at minor risk, I may hope ) to maybe have to leave behind my 15 year old doggie. So, forgive me that I laugh a bit less, when reading the same style and repeated jokes...over and over again. I sincerely wish the best to all of you ( and to myself ! ). No hard feelings. We simply dont have the same sense of humour and a different background Rony
  4. 13 points
    Get your head out of the sand and realize this is not overblown hype. Sitting next to someone at Open Circle who has been exposed to the virus coming from US, UK, Spain, Switzerland, Italy, and many other countries is not particularly safe. It can be spread with no symptoms.
  5. 12 points
    I most certainly do NOT hate Americans. I hate misinformation and am really TRYING to get people from EVERYWHERE to pay attention to this virus and to get their heads out of their butts. I don't care if the American President is Republican or Democrat as long as the job is done properly. Therefore, I am not a fan of Trump. I had nothing really critical to say about either Bush or Reagan. Tricky Dicky creeped me out. If you don't know where I'm from then you don't spend enough time on the local forums. And, btw, that was a VERY personal attack and a very twisted message. I have many, many American friends. Why don't you try improve your reading comprehension instead of just reading.
  6. 12 points
    I know that you are a moderator here, and have some power, but please rethink your continuous sarcasm and macho behaviour. It is utterly childish. As a European, I follow VERY closely the unfolding drama in Italy ( where I have friends/direct witnesses in Florence ) and other European countries. Panic no,.... but the non stop jokes about this ...are not even funny anymore and out of place. One bad joke yes, but ... If you still believe that this is not serious and will not hit people here ( especially the poor, who will not have access to good or any healthcare ), you will be in for a big surprise soon. Rony
  7. 11 points
    Wow, lakeside7. A new low in your never-ending stream of complaints. The mask making is a charity: "an organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need." In fact, you can't even get them right now, as they are devoting all their energy to helping lakeside villagers, not greedy, self-important, bloviating gringos. So go spend your 30p and feel really good about yourself. I'm disgusted.
  8. 11 points
    A little humor here sent by a friend of mine. More than a grain of truth too. We have the option here to use at least some of the money to help out the local folks who are getting really hurt by this, as MtnMama suggested.
  9. 11 points
    The Monday market at Sunrise restaurant and the Tuesday market at La Huerta should be closed also but greed winns the day. I agree, this was started in order to provide healthier choices, that is no longer the case. Encouraging people to go out when they have been asked to stay home is not thinking of anyone's health. Shame on them.
  10. 11 points
    I am a health care professional. If you were ever in the situation 'in the front' lines you would understand the grave concern [ not hysteria ] we have when people willfully ignore health warnings and put others in danger, including those we expect to help us when we are sick. To put it mildly, that pisses me off. Look at Italy as an example..thus far 23 Doctors have died, and approx. 4,824 health workers have been infected by coronavirus, and who knows how many of them will die,, how can hospitals absorb all those sick individuals, and deicisions will have to be made about who gets a ventilator, etc.. To be quite blunt: You can always find a way to fix financial / economic problems, local and global. You can not fix Dead !
  11. 11 points
    Our Delegado, Juan Ramon says many followed directions, some didn't didn't ---human nature, The police checked the malecon every 30 minutes and broke up any groups. Sunday was dead, Good adherence. Mexico may save itself.
  12. 11 points
    I will make no further posts in reference to the Corona-virus. Thank you.
  13. 11 points
    Mainecoons, you are extremely deluded if you think the US response has been "rapid". A couple weeks ago the POS was saying it was all an overblown hoax created by the Dems to derail the election. Today, in his meeting with US governors, he told them if they needed medical supplies, they should find them themselves. And the madness that is taking place at US airports, where thousands of US citizens were forced to wait for hours, in packed conditions, with zero protection as far as spreading diease, was insane and irresponsible and probably substantially upped the number of cases that will surface. It's too late now for US entry travel bans- that should have been done not only by the US, but worldwide, weeks ago. It's now in the US, there have been deaths, and it's the US residents who are spreading it around, some of them still under the impression that it's some "liberal media hype".
  14. 10 points
  15. 10 points
    China lied, okay. China didn’t lie, okay. Donald is still full-o-crapola.
  16. 10 points
    the wonderful Mexican people who have taught me so much about what's important
  17. 10 points
    Message from the Governor of the state of Jalisco. Enrique Alfaro. #ConferenciaDePrensa: #Coronavirus # COVID19 | March 23, 2020 Fifteen days ago, Jalisco made the decision to step forward and act responsibly in the face of the coronavirus pandemic. On March 12, we launched the Jalisco COVID-19 plan with a series of difficult but necessary measures. From the beginning, in this government, we decided to take a different route from the one that the government of the republic and other states of the country were taking. None of this is new; all we did was attend to the recommendations of the World Health Organization (WHO), of experts and scientists from Jalisco, Mexico, and the world. We learned from experiences beyond our borders, from the mistakes and successes of other countries to face this situation in the best way. We knew how to give the right value to anticipation as a preventive measure, and I feel calm and proud for having taken this path. During the last five days, following the recommendations of the University of Guadalajara, in an act of enormous civic value, millions of Jalisco residents heeded the government's call to stay home and avoid massive contagion at a crucial moment. The exercise of resistance that we have lived must make us feel deeply proud. Without the need to impose a mandatory quarantine, in Jalisco we made stewardship the strongest weapon to face the crisis. This has been the beginning, just the beginning, of an endurance race, not speed. The beginning of a path that will lead us to save lives and preserve the health of Jalisco. To give you an idea, during these days of voluntary isolation, the demand for trips on public transport had a reduction of up to 50%, in other words, equivalent to a million trips a day that were not made. Commercial and service activity had a reduction of between 70 and 80 percent; and industrial activity, a 30% reduction. Without a doubt, these are data that reflect the enormous economic sacrifice that these measures have represented for all, but the effort has been worthwhile. The first results of our strategy are encouraging and should serve as encouragement for us not to slow down. Let me share the following information. Five days ago, Jalisco had practically the same cases as Mexico City. Today, the results show that infections in the country's capital grew almost twice as fast as those in our state, or in other words, in Jalisco we managed to half the rate of spread of the virus compared to that of the virus in Mexico City. Thanks to all the measures that we have taken in Jalisco and the responsibility of the people of Jalisco, today, we do not have to declare a mandatory quarantine. This is good news to start with, but it doesn't mean we can not let our guard down. On the contrary, it is time to start the next stage of the strategy and once again Jalisco needs all of us. The scientific information we have tells us that the social isolation measures we have taken in these five days have been successful, but they have to be sustained with some adjustments, at least until Sunday. If we were to slow down right now, we would spoil everything that we have advanced. Saying that these measures have to be sustained until Sunday does not mean that on Monday everything will return to normal. It means that on Monday, we are going to make an assessment that allows us to adjust the strategy, based on new information generated by the application of massive tests to Jaliscienses. I insist the endurance race has only just begun. Having clarified that the social isolation measures are sustained, then what are the adjustments in these measures, compared to those of the last days? First. Today the priority is for those who are over 60 years old to stay at home, pregnant women, people with chronic degenerative diseases such as diabetes or hypertension, and people with symptoms of a respiratory disease. That is the population whose stay at home is essential. Second. Economic activities, which, by their nature, cannot be stopped and are necessary for Jalisco to function. They have to be carried out under strict health and hygiene measures for workers, which will be supervised by the Ministry of Labor. We maintain the call for those who can do work from home to do so, but those companies that require face-to-face work must guarantee the existence of a model of shifts that privileges remote work, which guarantees support for absenteeism. the sectors of the population that we already define as the most vulnerable, as well as acting at all times with solidarity and permanent communication with their workers. Our economy cannot be stopped, but health is first. Third. Without relaxing the isolation measures, and understanding that the supply of food and basic services cannot be stopped, we have to strengthen the consumption of our micro and small commercial units in a new exercise of solidarity. This is a call for all of us to privilege local consumption as a measure of containment to the difficult economic situation we face. If you go to the tianguis or the market, go alone, without your family, taking the appropriate hygiene measures. If you want to eat tacos, don't go to the stand with your family; make an order to go or order them through some platform. If you want to eat in a restaurant, make sure that they have the social distance and health measures that we have established as mandatory, and if they do not, demand them to accomplish them. Fourth. After detecting the first case in a municipality outside the Guadalajara metropolitan area, imported from the USA, we call on the Jalisco community abroad to help us care for their families. Visiting Jalisco at this time, only puts those you love most at risk. Given the lack of response from the authorities for the suspension of flights from places that have virus outbreaks, we appeal to the solidarity of our countrymen abroad, particularly in the United States. You know that we love and miss you here, but at this time, it is essential that no patronal or civic holiday be a reason to put your families at risk. Please take good care of yourselves. Here we will be aware of you and your people. We will see each other again soon. With these adjustments, Jalisco maintains the call for social isolation that until today has allowed us to face this crisis in the best way. Additionally, this evening, the operating rules of a government financial support program for micro and small businesses will be published, as well as for the population in self-employment or informal commerce. Starting Thursday, you will begin the online process to access these supports. Pay attention. We will give more information in the following hours. Tomorrow, as well, we will start the massive virus testing program as a strategy for the prevention and early detection of the coronavirus. In Jalisco, we are not going to hide the truth, on the contrary, we will start from a real diagnosis to adjust the strategy and avoid deaths. It does not matter, if from this exercise, Jalisco appears in the statistics, in first place of detected cases. If this is so, it will be because here we are looking for our patients, finding them quickly, caring for them, isolating them and protecting the community. I am convinced that this is the correct way for each authority to assume his/her responsibility and act accordingly. Everything is changing, and so we have to understand it. There is no time for half measures. The decisions and actions that we take together these days will define in many ways the shape that we will have in the coming years. At the end of the day, the most important measure of all is and will continue to be in the will of the people. As governor, but above all, as a jalisciense, thank you to all for the commitment we have shown. Let us continue to do our part. #ConferenciaDePrensa: #Coronavirus # COVID19 | March 23, 2020
  18. 10 points
    My maid has worked for me for the past nine years and has become a friend. She is very poor and cannot feed her kids without working. She came Friday and I gave her full pay through the end of April and told her to stay off the bus. I am immune suppressed and have no desire to get the virus so I will re-evaluate the situation then. Anyone who thinks this will last five days needs a reality check. I am middle class but, comparatively speaking, I live like a queen. With the exchange rate being what it is, her costs to me are minimal. Let's share the wealth, people. Reach out to those who are in trouble and help them. Businesses are required by law to pay minimum wages to their workers for at least a month. We should do at least that.
  19. 10 points
    The cessation of using the 'N' word was called PC by some/many too but I suspect that no one would consider using it now. No difference. It is meant to project disrespect. 100% of the worlds population that is paying ANY attention knows that the virus started somewhere in China. Using "China flu' to reference it to reflect 'blame' and to deflect responsibility is as shameful as most other slurs. To have our President continue to foster its use is....IMO.... despicable. You guys using it, and suggesting that it is just to remind us of where it originated, borders on the same too but that of course is your right. But YOU don't represent 300+ million people.
  20. 9 points
    I was at the market last Tuesday, I know it was difficult and they were doing their best but I thought it was disorganized there was very little social distancing both outside and inside the building, many didn’t understand they were supposed to wait in line and snuck in when The guy on the door turned his back.. Many did shop and leave while others stood around chatting.. In my estimation there less than half of the usual venders there.. I won’t go again until this virus issue has been resolved, it’s just not worth the risk..
  21. 9 points
    I have been haunted by the statement that more Mexicans were likely to die from starvation than Covid-19. So, if you are able, please consider donating a portion of your US Stimulus check to one or more of our local charities who help feed our local populace. A few that come to mind are: Operation Feed in SJC, Tepehua Centro in Chapala, and Ninos de San Antonio Community Kitchen in SAT. I am sure many of the local churches are helping as well. Please feel free to add other suggestions.
  22. 9 points
    Direct quotes: During a campaign rally in South Carolina on Feb. 28, Mr. Trump accused Democrats and the news media of hysteria and unfairly criticizing his administration by engaging in what he said was a political “hoax.” On Jan. 22, asked by a CNBC reporter whether there were “worries about a pandemic,” the president replied: “No, not at all. We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” On Feb. 26, at a White House news conference, commenting on the country’s first reported cases: “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” On Feb. 27, at a White House meeting: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” On March 7, standing next to President Jair Bolsonaro of Brazil at Mar-a-Lago, his club in Palm Beach, Fla., when asked if he was concerned that the virus was spreading closer to Washington: “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, I’m not. No, we’ve done a great job.” (At least three members of the Brazilian delegation and one Trump donor at Mar-a-Lago that weekend later tested positive for the virus.) On March 16, in the White House briefing room, warning that the outbreak would “wash” away this summer: “So it could be right in that period of time where it, I say, wash — it washes through. Other people don’t like that term. But where it washes through.” On Tuesday he took to the White House lectern and made a remarkable assertion: He knew it was a pandemic all along. “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.” The guy is a massive crock. And anyone supporting him is stewing in his feces.
  23. 9 points
    Please be aware that many expats travel extensively. They should self-quarantine for a minimum of two weeks when returning to Mexico. If you know people who have been abroad, please make it crystal clear that they put others at great risk if they do not do this. We all know by now that people can be carrying the virus without being symptomatic.
  24. 8 points
  25. 8 points
    This guy should stick to giving spinal adjustments. I'm not worried I'm gonna die, but I'm worried I, or someone I love could get very sick and possibly die. Anyone who is not taking this virus seriously at this point deserves whatever outcome they receive. Yes, governments lie, duh, and most of the time it is so transparent that one should be able to discern it with a modicum of sense. Are all the governments in the world and all the health agencies and 99% of professionals saying very similar things about this virus? Yes. Are they all on the same page as to how they feel about the US, or other countries? No. So a conspiracy is pretty much a stretch. So, glean what you can from folks who have some credibility and use common sense.
  26. 8 points
    Although I have not been to the Tuesday market in years, as I recall the overwhelming majority of those present appeared to be well over 60. The US CDC strongly recommends that those over 60 try to avoid all shopping trips period. It seems odd that a market targeting health conscious individuals should encourage people to ignore that guidance. b/t/w the reason I stopped going was because people were constantly trying to out jockey each other to get to items of choice. I can’t see them being good practitioners of social distancing.
  27. 8 points
    90 deaths in TX is 90 real people. And it will get worse, that is a fact. Let's not minimize it by saying it is .0003%.
  28. 8 points
    Well Hud my little brother is in the hospital on a respirator.. He works as a para medic for the fire department in Paris and his wife is a nurse. Yesterday he got worse and now the hospital is too busy to speak to his wife , who is confined at home with 2 little kids and is waiting to see if they are all gong to get sick and to hear if her husband is dead or alive.. That put back things in perspectve... Your statistic will be outdated in 2 days as things will get worse...
  29. 8 points
    In case anyone was interested - Translation from this afternoon’s address to our state by our governor, Enrique Alfaro. (Here is the video link: https://www.facebook.com/EnriqueAlfaroR/videos/244498123347137/ ) UDG presented the results from the plan that was put in place on March 12. These results gave us the necessary scientific backing to make further decisions. The strategy we designed worked and it worked well. Jalisco’s increase in cases was 196%, while the national increase was 389% The virus spread in CDMX 2.5 times faster than in Jalisco. The state of Mexico is now way over Jalisco with an increase of 750%. The timing for Jalisco to mobilize a strategy came when the federal government was still minimizing the problem. We chose to make our own decisions because we understood the priority of acting now. We didn’t do it to confront others. We did it because we had no other choice and because of the recommendations made by our science experts and the World Health Organization. We put the health of Jalisco residents above everything else. Time proved us right. But we cannot claim a victory yet. Today the federal government has reacted and our president has changed his approach. I want to express to our president that he can count on us. We join our president in supporting his request to remain in isolation until April 19. We support our federal government if he declares a national sanitary emergency if it comes to that. We know how to raise our voice against the federal government when we don’t agree with their policies, but we also know to support the federal government when their commitment is well-founded. We insist on our desire to close our airports to flights coming from danger areas, but we cannot do this without our president’s support. We insist on wanting to do massive testing but cannot do so until the federal government approves the importation of such tests. As governor, I’ll continue leading with all the initiatives necessary to protect our people. In the next few hours, I will deploy our hospital conversion strategy to be prepared when needed. I will continue to provide support for small businesses and those that need the most support. I ask all municipalities to implement all the measures we have established and to keep their populations well informed. We will not relax. We are doing everything we can to protect Jalisco. We must stay at home, except for the essential, particularly those at risk: those over 60, diabetes or hypertension, pregnancy or those with respiratory symptoms. Some people have to go out to look after all of us, doctors, physicians, folks that work in supermarkets and so forth. If we keep 60 percent of us stayed at home, by April 19, we can have between 184-194 new cases. In contrast, if only 40 percent of us stayed at home, by that date we could have between 1514-1718 new cases. It is that important. So we must continue to follow our guidelines between now and April 19. Semana Santa is coming up. And that doesn’t mean stay at home now and then stay at home at a vacation destination. Not only are you putting your family at risk, but you are also putting our state at risk. Going on vacation means bringing the virus elsewhere. We know this is not easy. Believe me, we don’t enjoy doing this. This is an emergency. Our families and their health are at stake. This is the moment for national unity. The moment to take ourselves seriously. This is the time for co-responsibility. Each one of us must do our part. Let’s put aside our differences. We are in the middle of an emergency. Mexico needs us. Jalisco is ready to do our share.
  30. 8 points
    Well you are certainly NOT off base, and you come across as a thoughtful and sensitive person, but it's going to take a lobotomy on some of us to accomplish your desires.
  31. 8 points
    Well said Ferret, and don´t let them push you around or intimidate you! (no more reactions vote)
  32. 8 points
    Juan is living in a pipe dream because he is a devoted AMLO follower. Juan's source of information is Facebook for all things coronavirus. Mexico has in NO way "turned the corner" -- it has barely even started. Harry, you should delete this post because it is completely false and the link you posted isn't even about Mexico? Irresponsible. The chart you mention is also misleading. The reason why the US looks better is because of a lack of testing.
  33. 8 points
    I have lined and locked this so it doesn’t get hijacked.
  34. 8 points
    Where did you find the metric for expensive or cheap or decent? I did google “metric for food prices in Ajijic” didn’t find anything... Perhaps it would be better to say that “YOU THINK” it is expensive... for some people is not about the price, is about the experience... so, don’t look for restaurants cause you will always be disappointed when “YOU THINK” is expensive or it is our of “YOUR BUDGET”, just find the restaurants that have the prices you like and talk good things about those instead of complaining about the ones you can’t afford or the ones that have the prices that you don’t want to pay... Wouldn’t you be happier if you did that? 😄
  35. 8 points
    I am telling you otherwise, since you have not made it your business to stay informed on the latest information on a world wide pandemic. Everyone on the planet has been asked to minimize being around other people for 15 days-starting now. This will curb the spread. sigh. Patti
  36. 8 points
    Manix will be putting this in this weeks paper Manix Restaurant and Bar #57 Ocampo, Ajijic 766-0061 or 331 065 0725 and What’s Up For over 30 years, Manix has been a family business in our one location. We consider our customers part of our family and want to provide for them like family. In these stressful times, below are the steps we are taking. We invite your suggestions! · We are initiating local home delivery of our entire menu. See our Facebook page or call. We will add pizza/ hamburgers on request. · We are offering limited breakfast service and delivery, as listed on Facebook- scrambled eggs, pan cakes, oatmeal or fruit plate w beverage. · We have removed our traditional tablecloths and napkins and replaced them with disposable placemats and napkins which will be replaced for every party. · Staff will enhance all sanitation procedures Tables will be disinfected after each party, according to recommendations..
  37. 8 points
    Rally GTO Mexico is over now. Tomorrow sessions/stages were cancelled. Many infectious disease experts are claiming that New CoronaVirus is not the flu but different; Mortality rate is much higher; 2% vs 0.1%,  Infectivity is much much stronger, etc. No specific remedy is not available yet. Fear might destroy the economy but the point is that the New CoronaVirus will destroy medical system in the country easily. Look at what is happening in Italy, Spain, France and so on. Washing hands is effective and Try to AVOID the crowd, too! I have been to GTO many times to spectate the WRC and I have a feeling that the spectators got exciting experiences and a small chance of getting virus as well. Do not get too nervous but do not underestimate the New virus.
  38. 8 points
    I received this yesterday. I cannot verify anything. I was probably one in a long chain.
  39. 8 points
    This is about more than stocking up on toilet paper. This article is not hype, nor is it "stupid and overblown". Read it if you are interested in a very clear, intelligent, non-hype statistical evaluation of the pandemic and how various countries have responded successfully and what in all probability will happen in the coming weeks. The title of the article is "Coronavirus: Why you must act now"- by Tomas Pueyo https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca In Lakeside, with a large number of ex-pats traveling frequently out of the country, there is a higher risk than perhaps other parts of Mexico. The recommendation for anyone arriving here from a country which has incidence of this virus is to self-quarantine for 14 days. This can significantly restrict the spread of the virus in this country. The virus can be spread before there are any symptoms. Ignoring the significance of this is a danger to everyone.
  40. 7 points
    Alfaro is now saying that Jalisco's direct purchases of test kits will be allowed to clear customs and he has re-ordered them. When Jalisco begins our own testing we might begin to see some real numbers. Meanwhile the highway temperture checks continue. If you like Alfaro or not, he has taken far more precautions and much quicker than AMLO ever thought of..
  41. 7 points
    I for one, think the new highway project and concrete barrier planters look fantastic. Today they planted tress through SAT and La Floresta. If they do as well as the palmas have done along the Carretera in SAT, it is going to be beautiful. I sometimes, actually many times, think the negative nellies hope for failure so they can keep up and on with their incessant complaining and whining. Some things here succeed and some don´t, I´m just happy and thankful for the ones that do, and wonder why people who constantly complain even want to live here. There must many places in the world that don´t have "ugly concrete dividers", "no maintenance", "nobody to water plants" and all the other terrible faults of this area. I know if I felt the way so many do living here that I would looking for new stomping grounds. But then if they moved to "Utopia", there wouldn´t be anything to complain about, and that would take all the joy out of life…... Could things be better? they always can, so that´s why I enjoy what there is and say to myself "that´s pretty damn nice" with a smile on my face and quit thinking about what could of, should of, would of, have been done. ¡ Felicidades to the engineering, architectural, and construction people for a job well done on the highway project. It certainly is a pleasure to drive on and is a huge improvement, (IMHO), for the area.
  42. 7 points
    Just had to get that racist attitude in, huh?
  43. 7 points
    Mudgirl, please start another thread to vent on. This poor guy just wants to talk about moving down here. Some people like to talk about things other than the virus now and then.
  44. 7 points
    Oh my god, you are such a tit.
  45. 7 points
    My hobby is photography...took this one in the garden at Delicia's recently. Isn't he handsome?
  46. 7 points
    That would be a lot of acreage to cover. 😀
  47. 7 points
    UPDATE Per the Governor of Jalisco! ATTENTION EVERYONE IN JALISCO STATE!!! PLEASE SHARE! Finally the Governor of Jalisco speaks up! the key points (this was translated): PLEASE READ 1 TO 10 POINTS!! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT NEWS FOR US!! 1. Going by the calculations and examples of Italy, Spain and USA, who he says put economics in front of people's safety (ouch!), Jalisco will take earlier measures to protect it's people. 2. They will have $230million pesos to invest in proper medical equipment and test kits etc. 3. Cancellations of mass events. 4. Jalisco was the first State to suspend classes which other States in Mexico have followed by example and provide the tools for classes on line.. 5. Bars, gyms, churches etc. closures for the next 15 days. Restaurants to take better precautions. 6. Have $1,000million pesos in aid for the small business sector. Wednesday they will inform business owners how to access funding. 7. The next 3 days they will announce a program for testing for the virus. 8. To avoid rumors, there will be no shortages of food, public transit will not be shut down, they will not negate private hospital testing, they will not suspend public service and they will do their best as a gov't to keep their people informed with true facts. 9. Calculations of this virus show that the next 5 days are crucial to control this virus. 10. The Jalisco Gov't is asking that we: STAY HOME FOR 5 DAYS to avoid forced quarantine later. It is a scientific fact that if we stay in isolation at home for the next 5 days, we can avoid a more serious out break! There you have it!! This is no joke!!! I have family and friends in Italy, France and Spain!! They are wondering why we in Mexico have not taken action!! California is not that far away from us and look what is happening there! Please take this announcement seriously!!
  48. 7 points
    I’m going to lock this now as it no longer has anything to do with coronavirus in our area. Largely 13 pages of largely off topic posts. Most foolish.
  49. 7 points
    A version of this warning was posted on TOB a day or two ago and since then deemed most likely to be BS. There are tests that show CV can live for up to 3 days on surfaces, not 12 hours. Most viruses and bacteria thrive in warm conditions, that's why hospitals and medical facilities are kept so cold. Viruses spread in winter because everyone is inside together. When it gets warm people spend time outdoors, not so close, and more importantly, in the sun. UV kills viruses. The virus thrives in the human body which has a temperature of close to 100. To think an ambient temp of 85 will kill it makes little sense.
  50. 7 points
    I agree. But let us also keep some balance here. Too much gets really boring and takes away the opportunity for others to discuss this a little more seriously. Does every serious comment have to be downplayed... I doubt that a lot of Italian families are joking right now. We didnt always joke this much about other ugly world events that hit other people in the world, did we... Not everybody has to become a comedian about this Rony
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