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#1 natbug

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 07:20 PM

I have 2 new basil plants and the white flies love them too much.  I have tried the only pesticide available at Home Depot but they just laugh at me.  Do any of you gardeners have a suggestion to get rid of the little buggers?



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 08:02 PM

I have 2 new basil plants and the white flies love them too much.  I have tried the only pesticide available at Home Depot but they just laugh at me.  Do any of you gardeners have a suggestion to get rid of the little buggers?

 

White flies are resistant to most pesticides. Dice or ground up a couple of whole garlic, the whole garlic not just a few cloves. Put in a jar, add water, add lid, and let sit in the Sun a couple of days. Then strain and spray this solution on the dirt around your plants and under the leaves. Do it a couple of times a day. It only takes two-three days and the white flies will be gone. They live in the dirt and hate garlic.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:25 AM

I'll give it a shot, thanks Joco.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:00 AM

White flies are indestructable.  I never found a pesticide that would actually kill them.  Adding a few drops of dish detergent to the garlic solution will help in driving them off.

 

In a greenhouse you can buy some tiny bees of some kind and turn them loose.  I bought 1000 of them (came in a small pill bottle) and turned them loose in a greenhouse and they dropped off considerably.  In a greenhouse, you can also get a yellow sticky tape that attracts them.  I have no idea how that would work outside.

 

Shaking the plants a couple times of day and using a fine, hard water spray under the leaves will run them off temporarily. 



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:28 AM

We use a tobacco/soap spray under the leaves prepared as with the garlic



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:27 AM

I use a Habenero spray (Habeneros diced and fermented in water and vinegar in the sun for 3 days in a closed jar, strained and put in a spray bottle) for keeping birds from roosting in nooks and crannies, as well as a pesticide for many plants. I never tried it for white flies, though. It might work. It is amazing stuff!

 

(Do not wipe eyes after dicing Habeneros!) :013:



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:13 AM

Sounds like a possible recipe for habañero salad dressing.  :)



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:39 AM

Thanks all, I will probably try them all and let you know what worked best.  ChrisB and Aguaponicsman are there proportions that work best?  Oh, and I have made the same mistake with habeneros...OUCH, my sympathies.  RVGringo, might need a bit of sugar to balance all the hot and acid but might be very good.  JRM, I was wondering about some dish detergent too so I will probably try it, but maybe not on the soil...to spray on the leaves perhaps?



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:29 PM

Thanks all, I will probably try them all and let you know what worked best.  ChrisB and Aguaponicsman are there proportions that work best?  Oh, and I have made the same mistake with habeneros...OUCH, my sympathies.  RVGringo, might need a bit of sugar to balance all the hot and acid but might be very good.  JRM, I was wondering about some dish detergent too so I will probably try it, but maybe not on the soil...to spray on the leaves perhaps?

Spraying white flies with detergent and water (1:30) will definately slow them down.

 

White flies are sap suckers.  They make some stuff for sap suckers but I wouldn't use it on anything I was going to eat.

 

Probably the best way to handle it is to start the plants indoors and transplant late.  Then feed them well and water well.  The stronger they are, the better. Once White flies get into a greenhouse, the only real thing that works safely is the bees.

 

I always closed up the greenhouse in July and August and the temp and sun killed everything.  Just baked it to death.

 

Sterilize all the pots with Clorox and water and let them dry well before using. 



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:16 PM

General gardening note: I have noticed that the gardeners here do not spray water on the plants they water. Since we go for several months without rain, the plants can use just plain washing with water. NOT a cure for white flies BUT it does help the plants' health and drowns some of the white flies too.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:05 PM

Take a spray bottle and put one teaspoon of detergent one teaspoonof rubbing alcohol and fill with water .Spray plant .



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:33 PM

We got rid of them last week from Basil with just a soap spray.  That is what we used in Houston.



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 06:52 AM

the tobacco isn't working - one box of cheap cigs, sans filters, broken up. Our gardener is next trying peroxide in water.



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:37 AM

OK, scratch tobacco, got it.  Thanks ChrisB



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:50 PM

Yellow sticky cards attract just about everything except thrips.   I have used sticky cards here in the tomato and vegetable gardens.    The problem is the cards are quickly covered with the large and varied quantity of small flying insects, especially after the rain season begins.    Thrips seem to prefer blue and I have had some success dipping blue cups in very thick motor oil and clipping the cups to jaulas and support stakes.  


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Posted Yesterday, 11:27 AM

So I made and used the dish detergent and vinegar solution.  It kept them to a minimum for several days to a week.  Now they are back.  I will spray them again tonight and made the garlic solution which is sitting in the sun now and will be ready in a couple of days.  The saga continues. lol



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Posted Yesterday, 11:45 AM

I would try bacillus thuringiensis.  Just dissove it in water and spray it on the foliage.  It is supposed to be harmless to humans, but I would wash the produce well before using.

 

http://en.wikipedia....s_thuringiensis

 

Read about it and them make up your mind.



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Posted Yesterday, 01:52 PM

I am the anti pesticide type.. so I use a stick, think a paint stirrer, painted bright yellow. then I let it dry and coat it in Vaseline.. the cheaper the better.. they fly on it it and cant get free of it.. then I throw it out :)

no worries for kids or pets :)

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Posted Today, 06:26 AM

So I made and used the dish detergent and vinegar solution.  It kept them to a minimum for several days to a week.  Now they are back.  I will spray them again tonight and made the garlic solution which is sitting in the sun now and will be ready in a couple of days.  The saga continues. lol

 

I planted cloves of garlic in the soil with tomato plants and white flies haven't been on those plants. Try planting a clove of garlic with each basil plant. It will take a few days for the garlic to sprout but I think any odor of garlic runs the flies off.



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Posted Today, 06:46 AM

I was wondering about planting garlic, do you know how big they get?  My herbs are planted in pots and I don't want them to be overtaken by the garlic.

 

The paint stirrer sound safe and cheap so I'll pick one up along with some paint this week.

 

Haven't read about thuringiensis yet but will let you know what I decide.

 

Thanks to all the gardeners for your help.






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