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#1 Tingting

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:18 PM

Finally, some happy news in a horrible situation with the property owner from Hell.

A BIG, BIG heartfelt thanks to JayKay for responding so quickly when he read the posting. It takes a very special person to go so far above and beyond to help animals in need. THANK YOU JAYKAY!

The dogs went this morning to The Ranch. So...another very BIG, BIG thanks to Gudrun Jones for working out a way to take in the dogs and keep them together. Even though the Ranch is full, she came to the rescue to get the dogs out first thing this morning. THANK YOU, GUDRUN!

Another BIG, BIG THANKS to Lori and Vern Geiger. Had they not intervened following the death of their friend and volunteer, Cathy´s rescues would either be out in the street, badly injured by the property owner (may she rot in karmic Hell), or dead.

A big thanks to all of you who have taken in "just one more." It might not make a dent in the big picture, but it sure makes a life and difference for that pooch (or cat).

Finally, thanks to all of you who cared enough to write to me or posted online. All of you have a special place on The Rainbow Bridge.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

Finally, some happy news in a horrible situation with the property owner from Hell.

A BIG, BIG heartfelt thanks to JayKay for responding so quickly when he read the posting. It takes a very special person to go so far above and beyond to help animals in need. THANK YOU JAYKAY!

The dogs went this morning to The Ranch. So...another very BIG, BIG thanks to Gudrun Jones for working out a way to take in the dogs and keep them together. Even though the Ranch is full, she came to the rescue to get the dogs out first thing this morning. THANK YOU, GUDRUN!

Another BIG, BIG THANKS to Lori and Vern Geiger. Had they not intervened following the death of their friend and volunteer, Cathy´s rescues would either be out in the street, badly injured by the property owner (may she rot in karmic Hell), or dead.

A big thanks to all of you who have taken in "just one more." It might not make a dent in the big picture, but it sure makes a life and difference for that pooch (or cat).

Finally, thanks to all of you who cared enough to write to me or posted online. All of you have a special place on The Rainbow Bridge.

I am so happy that this turned out so well. Were the dogs in good shape when you found them? Thanks to all of you who helped.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

We would like to also thank Jay Kay for his quick response and willingness to help! Bless this guy!

And a HUGE thank you to Gudrun Jones!!!!!! She made space so all three dogs can be together in a safe environment. ( She is our HEROINE!) The poor dogs have been through hell. We are Fostering /nursing BB (the 4th dog) back to health, as he needs lots of TLC…… but we do NEED to find a home for him. ( in a few weeks) He is a sweetheart. He is about 8 months old.

BTW Gudrun / The Ranch, has some beautiful dogs in need of homes, everything from a gorgeous Dalmatian, to the cutest mixed breeds ever! They have all have so much love to give.

Not only are dogs man’s best friend, but they are also the best first alert.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 05:46 PM

GOD BLESS GUDRUN . Gudrun never says no to an animal in need . I have never seen anyone quite like her.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:13 PM

She is great. I always try to donate cash to her whenever I can. Oh and her husband Dryden is involved with handymail which I now use.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:29 PM

Gudrun is an awesome lady!!!!!!! Despite her husband poor health...... (he is not doing well :( ) she is still there for the dogs!!!!!!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 06:17 AM

We have known Gudrun for many years, she has rescued, spayed / neutered and adopted so many dogs over the years. She currently has approx. 70 dogs at the “Ranch”; A true dog lover, we are honored to know her. If you are unable to adopt one of these wonderful dogs at the “Ranch” please consider donating a bag of dog food.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

Would it not be possible for the Guadalajara Reporter to have been inforned of the whole situation? Maybe if they had covered it the next person may think twice about acting this way if it ended up in the newspapers.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:06 AM

I agree with Puddles,the story should go to the newspapers and include all that Gudrun does for the helpless animals of Ajijic. I am proud to know her ,she does not get the credit she should get or the help .

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:06 AM

Would it not be possible for the Guadalajara Reporter to have been inforned of the whole situation? Maybe if they had covered it the next person may think twice about acting this way if it ended up in the newspapers.


I've lived long enough to know ther are always two sides to every story.

The deceased woman had six dogs; was her landlord aware of this many dogs at her property?
Was the woman ill before her death; perhaps too ill to properly care for these animals....did the landlord arrive to find the property in poor condition, due to this many dogs?

I love dogs, but owning six is a stretch for most of us, unless we live on plenty of land/acreage. And why was one of the males not neutered? If they were former shelter dogs, don't the area shelters require spay/neuter before adoption (or for pups, a large deposit on the procedure, before adoption)?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:18 AM

Would it not be possible for the Guadalajara Reporter to have been inforned of the whole situation? Maybe if they had covered it the next person may think twice about acting this way if it ended up in the newspapers.

which story would you like them to cover? It would appear that the expat did not make provisions for the pets in the event of her demise. That is story number 1. Story number 2 is that her landlord didn't want to take responsibility in the absence of the tenant taking responsibility for the pets. Looks to me like this is no win all around. The forms on Anita's website are a great idea - but only a small percentage of expats read the webforums. Maybe the guad reporter should do an article about what happens to your pets if you do not plan for their care after your demise. I am guessing that a few of her dogs will be forever tenants at the ranch - supported by community donations - and yeah, you are I are members of this community. How many forever dogs (and cats) can the shelters take?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:25 AM

I've lived long enough to know ther are always two sides to every story.

The deceased woman had six dogs; was her landlord aware of this many dogs at her property?
Was the woman ill before her death; perhaps too ill to properly care for these animals....did the landlord arrive to find the property in poor condition, due to this many dogs?

I love dogs, but owning six is a stretch for most of us, unless we live on plenty of land/acreage. And why was one of the males not neutered? If they were former shelter dogs, don't the area shelters require spay/neuter before adoption (or for pups, a large deposit on the procedure, before adoption)?


Of course there are two sides to every story, but what in the hell justifies beating a defenseless, ABUSED dog with a cane simply because they are there? They weren´t attacking her or ripping off the door. They were dogs that were confused and lost because their human was gone. The hitting with a cane was witnessed, so you can say what you like, NOTHING justifies beating, hitting, etc, etc, an animal.

There is much more to the story that does not paint the property owner (may she rot in karmic hell) in a good light, but that wasn´t the point of the postings. The postings were to first get the dogs out of a dangerous situation and then to thank those who helped. It wasn´t to list just how ugly this woman truly is. That´s between her and her maker.

If you had read the original posting, you would have realized that these were all rescued dogs. The youngest had not yet had a chance to be neutered. These were street rescues. Yes, she had the land for the animals. Of course, she should have included her animals in a will or something, but thank God she had friends like Vern and Lori who are doing their best to follow her wishes and The Ranch to make it all possible.

Again, many thanks to all those involved and bless all of you who have taken in one (or more!) animals into your hearts.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:30 AM

which story would you like them to cover? It would appear that the expat did not make provisions for the pets in the event of her demise. That is story number 1. Story number 2 is that her landlord didn't want to take responsibility in the absence of the tenant taking responsibility for the pets. Looks to me like this is no win all around. The forms on Anita's website are a great idea - but only a small percentage of expats read the webforums. Maybe the guad reporter should do an article about what happens to your pets if you do not plan for their care after your demise. I am guessing that a few of her dogs will be forever tenants at the ranch - supported by community donations - and yeah, you are I are members of this community. How many forever dogs (and cats) can the shelters take?


You´ve made some excellent points, Max, but as I´ve written in the beginning of this 2nd posting, The Ranch (Gudrun Jones) was able to accomodate the dogs after some shifting. It was an incredible act of kindness on their part. I didn´t know about the form on Anita´s website, so I´m glad this was mentioned. It´s a great idea.

Please, please everyone...make provisions for your pets in your wills. You may be strong and healthy, but you never know when a bus grill has your name on it.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:57 AM

Cathy rescued dogs from the most dire circumstances, the one trying to cross a busy highway or the one lying in the road that had already been hit. She got dogs out of horrible abusive and neglected situations. She couldn't stand to see an animal suffer and she did the best she could for them even if they were old or unadoptable.
Cathy never had much of anything other than a huge heart, What she had she gave to the animals.
Please don't judge her too harshly, she was such a good person. Think Anita on a much smaller scale...Does Anita have a will and a plan for all of her animals? Of course not, it isn't always possible. But there are precious few like Cathy and Anita that give everything, the rest of us should indeed make provisions for our pets in the events of our deaths.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:05 AM

There was a will at one time that I was told that provided instructions for putting the dogs down at her death.
I can understand the property owners frustration about the dogs . I would be upset also. I just wished the owner would
have reached out to get help to place them somewhere.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:28 AM

Tingting, I did actually mean to cover it and include making provisions etc, but you are right my post was very vague. However to beat animals and treat them like that is wrong when there are people to call to take tye dogs away.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

I don't know what the laws are in Mexico but tenant rights are very strong here. The landlord might be (I would imagine most certainly be) in violation of the law just by entering the house before filing with the courts and going through the whole legal process . She certainly didn't have the right to take possession of the house just days after Cathy's death while her belongings were still in the house without determining if there was an heir to her property. What she did was wrong.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:50 AM

Do any of us know the terms of Cathy's lease? Most competent leases contemplate the landlord's right of entry to premises that are abandoned by the tenant. Here, sadly, the premises were abandoned.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:42 AM

I've lived long enough to know ther are always two sides to every story.

The deceased woman had six dogs; was her landlord aware of this many dogs at her property?
Was the woman ill before her death; perhaps too ill to properly care for these animals....did the landlord arrive to find the property in poor condition, due to this many dogs?

I love dogs, but owning six is a stretch for most of us, unless we live on plenty of land/acreage. And why was one of the males not neutered? If they were former shelter dogs, don't the area shelters require spay/neuter before adoption (or for pups, a large deposit on the procedure, before adoption)?


Yes, the the "landlord" was aware of the of the dogs! The puppy a rescue, was too young to be neutered.... Kathy had planned to do so ASAP. ( he is now 7 months old.) And yes Kathy took very good care of every animal she rescued! So don't be so quick to judge Kathy. The landlord is ONLY interested in money..... very long story...... but enough said.

I know many who have adopted animals from Anita that were NOT spayed or neutered!!! (Even though the were old enough to have been!)

Although Kathy did have some health issues none were serious enough to cause an unexpected death. We have 8 dogs! and yes we have made provisions for them.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

There was a will at one time that I was told that provided instructions for putting the dogs down at her death.
I can understand the property owners frustration about the dogs . I would be upset also. I just wished the owner would
have reached out to get help to place them somewhere.




Her death was unexpected. Yes, she did have a will. But she NEVER stated the dogs, where to be killed.




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