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#1 ezpz

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:07 AM

2 months ago I moved to a new house (great deal) and can easily see the guage on my gas tank, whereas before, I would have to have the delivery guys go up on the roof, themselves, with their ladder to check my levels. So, I never really knew exactly how much gas I had and had to guess and keep a record of the percentage each time.

The other day a gas guy whom I knew came by unannounced. I needed gas so I asked for 500 pesos worth. I got the receipt saying I got 80 liters of gas at 6.something per liter. The math was correct, but my gas tank went from being 20% full to only 40% full, a 20% difference.

My gas tank holds 180 liters, so 80 liters is almost half a tank. So, obviously I was shorted. I now realize that I have to check the gas levels myself IFO of the guys before and after.

This particular delivery guy who speaks English, has aggressively marketed himself in my area, leaving cards several times. But I no longer want to use him.

Some time ago someone had posted about ways of gas delivery trucks shorting customers somehow - you get a mathematically correct receipt, but you don't actually get what you paid for.

So, who is a good, reliable gas truck delivery guy these days??

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:10 AM

What company was it, what letter of the alphabet, V perhaps?
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 11:56 AM

I routinely get 20% for my 500 pesos. I switched a week ago and got 24% from the new guy. Does this mean I have been getting ripped off for over a year? Perhaps. But certainly less than the 13% I got for my $500 from Gas Zaragoza.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

its not the company, but the person who is driving the truck. i had used V, had trouble. always seemed low. yes he speaks english. i stopped because one friday i had gas put in. the next day saturday # 3pm the truck was back. i heard someone trying to pull the chain on my gate to see if the padlock would open. they know i sometimes unlatch it before they come. or keep it locked & pay through the gate. after hearing the scraping sound, i went out. the non english speaker was startled, & yelled GAS GAS! i screamed get out. then i called the english speaking driver on his cell, he said it wasnt his truck. i take his word for it. i did reconize that driver, i dont know if they always work in the same pairs. i now use zeta. they work weekends, & i seem to have more gas. this was reported to the crime site. the tank is on the roof, & is accessable from the outside. no one ever needs to come into the yard.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:43 PM

Zeta Gas in Guadalajara area is using the same tactic-
Their Drivers are now working on Commission for what they pump

I was warned by by neighbor but got stung anyway
I ordered gas 2 weeks ago for 1,000.00mxn 1/2 my tank size
live in 24 hr security gated Coto- last week while I was out - the Guards admitted Zeta for 1 of my neighbors- they stopped at my house went up on the roof and filled the tank to the tune of 1000.00mxn and slipped the receipt under my door with instructions to go to their office to PAY

Several of my neighbors also had this happen - one of the advantages of living in a gated community is power The Administrator of our 23 house Coto has now banned all Gas Trucks from entering our Coto unless homeowner advises Security Guards ahead of time that we ordered gas for a particular day.

I have not yet paid the bill

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:24 PM

Does anyone have a gas company/person who with they are completly satisfied?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:38 PM

privado, the gas comp doesnt need to enter my property to fill tank. they all know that. its right up there on the roof w/in full view right where they park. he was trying to get in, as he thought i wasnt home. maybe for a quick look@ the front door, you know in fast& out fast. mpb, so far zeta has been good. i ask tem excatctly how much do i habe total after the fill. (their delivery plus what was left in tank). then my gardener checks & so far they are honest. dont order by the pesos. order by liters. when they tell you for example "you have now 35%", then you say "how many liters in tank"? also zeta can come saturdays in the late afternoon, as late as 7pm. "V" never had gas on saturdays.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:48 PM

I use Z...works for us...

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:24 PM

My biggest problem is that I have to show the guys which tank on the roof of my building is mine and make sure they are filing mine, and not one of my neighbors. This means I cannot also be down by the truck making sure they have zeroed out, etc. The tank is up 3 floors, so I can't zip back down after showing them.

I don't think I'm getting ripped off though. I put $500 in recently and it gave me about a 40% increase - and gave me 80 liters. I've been told my tank holds around 200 liters. So that would be about right?

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:31 PM

saege007 mentioned something very important. If you can, always check to ensure that their meter on the truck says 0 before they start pumping. Every example of cheating that I know about is that they don't zero out the meter before filling your tank.

So if the last person bought say 74 liters and they don't zero out the meter you will be paying for that 74 liters again plus whatever gas you buy.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

I use Z...works for us...

Can you give a number for them? I have been with others and have been shorted from 10% to 20% short of what they charge.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:14 PM

That's right, Peter... my most recent delivery, I saw the digital gauge on the truck starting at 0000.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:18 PM

I use Juan who is now with Los Altos - comes right away. I keep track of the tank - on ground level - and don't think I've been shorted. Many of my friends use Juan - call his cell phone at 045 333 971-0630.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 03:34 PM

I second Juan! I have been using this service for 2 years.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:14 PM

I third Juan been using him for 5 1/2 years.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 04:42 PM

That's right, Peter... my most recent delivery, I saw the digital gauge on the truck starting at 0000.

What I don't know is how accurate the meter is on the gas truck. I highly suspect that the meter on my tank that shows %s is not that accurate. Sometimes doing the math and knowing the tank size the amount of gas goes up or down a few % points from where I computed it should be after purchasing say 300 liters. My tank is 500 liters and now with solar panels, I don't kill it but once every 10 or so months. Oh and happy birthday Mike

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:07 PM

Lol, thanks, Pete. The gauge on Juan's truck has big digital numerals, and it started at 0000, so unless it is pre-adjusted to "short" every count, it should be accurate (It's not a circular gas gauge; more like a calculator readout.) Besides, I got 24%, which is four percent more than I've ver gotten in this house in the last 18 months for my $500.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:09 PM

Yes Juan is a good guy. I have always trusted him.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 06:10 PM

I fourth Juan. I don't care which company he works for (has made changes over time) but has always been fair and honest with us and it's been at least 9 - 10 years.

I track gas use (litres/day) and always fill to 80% on guage, then call when near 20% left. It has never varied more than a few (less than 10, usually no more than 5) liters
per fill in all that time... in 3 different houses... except for seasonal extra use (Christmas baking / turkey, etc.) when I've had to call a little sooner than my usual 95 days.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

i pay zeta 300pesos for 50 liters. 374pesos for 60 liters. usually when i call there is about 30 liters left. when they leave i have between 80 or 90 liters. its the big water heater that is the problem, as thats alot of gas usage. an engineer was here to figure it out.my tank holds 300 liters, no need to fill to the top.




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