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[manny]

i am moving, looking @ houses/ apts. spoke to a renter who has been in riberis for one year. he was un able to get a phoneline, & he said people wait one year. so he had no inernet as well. only a cell phone but no landline. i must have landline etc. which areas have a long wait for phone lines? how is san antonio? what about mirasol? thankyou in advance.

[johanson]

This only a suggestion, But would it be a good idea to go to the say Ajijic or other city Telmex office and ask them? They might be able to give much better information than us.

I say they might because, they have made promises to me that didn't come true as fast as I expected. Oh, and why do you need a land line? Might not wireless internet or cable internet give you about the same reliability? Remember your Vonage phone comes via internet not necessarily a phone line

[lakeheron]

Talk to Telecable that can give you a landline and internet.

[manny]

peter, i will go to telmex for the info. (lakeheron, i will stay w/prodigy, & not change. know the same people for years, never heard of telelcable). pete, dont you need a phone line for the internet? how can you have internet w/out a line? yes i do use vonage now for my local calls as well. BUT if the internet is down, & theres an emergancy, i need the backup. thats why! try calling the red cross on vonage during windy weather or a storm. internet out. also FYI, cell phone calls to mexico from vonage have a 10cent per minute charge for vonage customers. pretty good deal, considering i was paying 4pesos per minute telmex w/landline. (most of asian mobiles are free, its a 60 country plan except mexico). BUT, when using vonage for mex cells, telmex charges the person who you call as well. i use the vonage to call doctors cells, & sometimes taxies, but friends lost lots of their credit after speaking to me.

[johanson]

Manny, the phone line is one of many ways to connect to the internet. I guess it all began with dialup. These days you can get internet via satellite just like TV (very expensive) via a cell phone (usually not as expensive), via your cable TV, and via fixed WiFi. And I bet there are other ways I forgot about. Oh they were experimenting giving internet via the power lines.

[manny]

pete i dont have TV, or cell, satellite. never heard of fixed power lines. interesting, as when i am on vonage, i am also on the internet. BUT the phone cord is plugged into the vonage box. just thought of that! still, you need a landline telmex telephone for emergencies. so that a necessity! cell phone is not something i would use here. & its a fortune in mexico. thanks for the info anyway!

[Malaya]

We just moved to Riberas and the house had no phone line. Rental agent arranged for new phone number and it was installed in less than a week. We have the new 106 exchange.

[hensley]

Most homes already have phone lines you just have to make sure before you move in.

[Little Feather]

You best bet if you are moving down here is to rent. Like an above post said, the rental agency can get you a phone if your rental doesn't have one already. Or if you are buying, being at Telmex at the right time, you might get a phone immediately. (Someone comes in to turn in a phone number because they are selling/moving.)

[manny]

best bet is go to TELMEX. & never depend upon a realesate agent to get you anything. best to know the real info. i have seen houses w/the phones in tact. also newer ones w/out lines @ all. one never knows what can happen here. i was lucky i got my phone w/in 2 days. this was over 10 years ago. no one could believe it. (but that was an additional #. i had one here for 20yrs before, so i wasnt deparate). now i hardly have internet. they upped my speed @ telmex last week & it was amazing for 2 days. now 80% of the time my modem light is red. modem is ony a few months old.

[Malaya]

Now that we have a new exchange number I don't think there will be any problems getting a phone line. Only problems I see is no one will know the 106 exchange is Lakeside.

[johanson]

A friend has had the 106 # for at least a year. Also note that you never see a 766 # followed by larger than a few years back 3999 and today they still don't have 766-8123 etc. Or so I understand. So sadly I think even with the new exchange you wont be able to get a new number rapidly. (I sure hope I'm wrong and if so someone please correct my information)

Oh, I think the highest 766-xxxx is much less than 766-8123, at least a while back it was.

[Curmudgeon]

peter, i will go to telmex for the info. (lakeheron, i will stay w/prodigy, & not change. know the same people for years, never heard of telelcable). pete, dont you need a phone line for the internet? how can you have internet w/out a line? yes i do use vonage now for my local calls as well. BUT if the internet is down, & theres an emergancy, i need the backup. thats why! try calling the red cross on vonage during windy weather or a storm. internet out. also FYI, cell phone calls to mexico from vonage have a 10cent per minute charge for vonage customers. pretty good deal, considering i was paying 4pesos per minute telmex w/landline. (most of asian mobiles are free, its a 60 country plan except mexico). BUT, when using vonage for mex cells, telmex charges the person who you call as well. i use the vonage to call doctors cells, & sometimes taxies, but friends lost lots of their credit after speaking to me.

I don't understand your Vonage thing ... I have the 60 country plan and it includes Mexico. I use it all the time. Telcel always charges a cell phone you call, whether it's from Vonage or not. Telmex do NOT charge a landline for receiving calls. Recently when my Vonage box was not working, I forwarded my Vonage to my Telmex landline. In the several weeks I waited for my new Vonage box, I got a LOT of calls, and was not charged by either Vonage or Telmex. I frequently forward my Vonage to my Mexican cellphone when I'm expecting a call and I'm going to be away from the house, and get no charges from Vonage, only the standard Telcel charge for receiving a call on my cell.
Did you get you Vonage plan in Canada or the US? Mine is US.

[manny]

CurM, i have a US plan for 60 countries. i said that "i call landlines in mexico for free". "i call cell phones in mexico for 10cents per minute". one of my mexican friends was charged on her cell phone after i called her from my vonage, she said they deducted 20pesos from her credit. i will ask telmex this info if they know it. i havnt checked w/anyone else about this. i dont think my cab drivers are paying attention, as they usually buy more time than my friend does. my vonage bill this month was $30 usd more for about 5 hours of cell conversations. ($6.00 usd per hr.) IF i did that w/ my telmex landline it would be around 3-4xs that as its 4 pesos a minute. i dont have a mexican cell phone, just landline & a vonage line. now since i use vonage for my local calls i can save on the telmex bill. im allowed 100 local calls & pay 100pesos for 90 minutes outside of ajijic. i need to cut the cell calls but this was an unusual month. i paylike $389 pesos. im looking into a cheaper telmex plan. nothing beats vonage. i can call a cell in singapore & pay zero. no free lunch in mexico.

[papirex]

peter, i will go to telmex for the info. (lakeheron, i will stay w/prodigy, & not change. know the same people for years, never heard of telelcable). pete, dont you need a phone line for the internet? how can you have internet w/out a line? yes i do use vonage now for my local calls as well. BUT if the internet is down, & theres an emergancy, i need the backup. thats why! try calling the red cross on vonage during windy weather or a storm. internet out. also FYI, cell phone calls to mexico from vonage have a 10cent per minute charge for vonage customers. pretty good deal, considering i was paying 4pesos per minute telmex w/landline. (most of asian mobiles are free, its a 60 country plan except mexico). BUT, when using vonage for mex cells, telmex charges the person who you call as well. i use the vonage to call doctors cells, & sometimes taxies, but friends lost lots of their credit after speaking to me.

If you have looked at any ads for laptop computers lately, you will see that very few of them have a telephone connection to connect to the Internet anymore. Most do have a connection for a network cable, however.




The easiest work-around is to use a router to connect to high speed Internet with a network cable, or wirelessly for any laptops you use at home.. The first company to offer high speed Internet here in Cuernavaca was Cablemas, it was faster, much cheaper, and more reliable than anything the phone companies were offering, which was nothing, 10 or 12 years ago.




I am about to update to two Apple laptops, and one Apple desktop, To try to recover from the twin disasters of the Microsoft operating system , the latest is W7, the worst of all, Nothing works as well as it did before Bill Gates retired, and his successors discarded XP. I have opted out of receiving automatic updates. I keep getting them anyway, usually when I shut my computer down for the day. Almost every time I get an update, another program will not work as it should.




Those clowns in charge of MS now always offer to sell me a program to make things work as they should. MS has gotten their last Dime out of me, I would rather pay a little more for a computer that works reliably all of the time. In another decade, I think that MS will just be a distant memory, they have already posted their first loss in their history. They have made all kinds of excuses for it, but a loss is a loss.




I have used the Vonage phone system for several years, It depends on the Internet to work. When the Internet is down, or the power fails the Internet and Vonage do not work.




Rex

[manny]

i bought 2 brand new apple computers this year. one last week, & yes i use the phone line for internet. in general i have trouble w/the modem connecting to the computer & cant go to links, but vonage is fine. only during a bad storm there is NO computer & no vonage. also there is no electric. i have a non electric phone for emergencies.

[Travis]

You're looking for a rental, right? You have two absolutely "must have" requirements.

1. Bars on all windows and high security.
2. A Telmex line, already installed.

Have you expressed those absolute "must haves" to the people your dealing with? It could save you, and them, a lot of time.

[manny]

yes bars were discussed w/agent #1, got no where. they want a low maintance tenent even though its a really long lease. i havnt called back yet to negioate. since this was a beautiful place, i can see someone taking it no questions asked. agent #2's places all had bars & phone lines. the other places i saw on internet were nice but did not have windows covered. most were modern, re read my comments. that was why i was concerned. im about to contact 2 other rental people next week. i would prefere a phone line. but will ask telmex the real story about certain areas, how long it takes. would prefer my phone # transfered if possible, its a 766. i would like not to go east of mirasol. im getting to know the areas, havnt explored west ajijic yet.

[Chapala.geek]

Maybe you would have better luck with telecable than telmex for speed of installation. Telmex has throttled back their physical line installation budget to concentrate on their wireless advancement.
I would think wireless would be the best, then you can have everything through that - Voip, skype, magic-jack, and the gazillion other internet-based communications available at a very low cost...

[HelperGuy]

What "wireless" are you referring to?