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[Mainecoons]

I'd prefer to see a link from El Informador, El Universal, La Jornada, or another responsible Spanish-language newspaper based in Mexico that states unequivocally that Enrique Peña Nieto has been ratified as the person who will be sworn in as President of Mexico on December 1.

While I appreciate the paragraphs from the Guadalajara Reporter, the information is more about what IFE said about possible vote-buying than about the results of the election per se.

I only ask because I read several of Mexico's Spanish-language newspapers every day and have seen nothing saying that IFE has made the statement that is alleged by another poster.

Let's be clear here. I'm not alleging anything. You asked a question as to the source, I posted the source in its entirety. BTW, hasn't there been some concern that the Mexican press has been avoiding or censoring this story?

Here's the link to the Guadalajara Reporter. Why don't you contact them directly and ask them to verify the source:

http://www.theguadalajarareporter.com/

I've found that when I email them with questions like this I get a prompt response.

You're welcome.

[More Liana]

MC, I read what you quoted from the Guadalajara Reporter. I also read the link you posted this morning. Thank you for both.

The Guadalajara Reporter article does not mention that IFE has ratified the July 1 election. The article is about the buying of the election, not about declaring a winner.

To date, Enrique Peña Nieto has not been ratified as president. No winner has been declared.

The Mexican media is not suppressing news of this announcement. It simply hasn't happened yet.

[Mainecoons]

I agree that is correct, however at this point it is pretty much a formality, no?

Did the Mexican press also not report the results of the appeal to IFE last Wednesday and the results?

[More Liana]

Yes, the Mexican press did of course report the same information that you posted.

However, my point was that in your original post, you (not your news source) stated that the election had been decided. It has not.

[Mainecoons]

More, Liana I think I stated an opinion that it was "pretty much a done deal." That is not stating that IFE has formally declared the election decided. I am aware that the formal declaration has not been made as of yet.

I do recall, however, that there was also a very large recount of the balloting by IFE and they stated the results were pretty much the same. Is this correct?

If so, we've had both a recount previously and the IFE has formally rejected the PRD's complaints as of last Wednesday. The election has not been formally certified at this point but it SEEMS to me, that is a formality now.

I really am skeptical that street demonstrations are going to change that unless you all envision this getting to the point where there is a revolution in this country and the government is brought down. That could have all sorts of unintended consequences, particularly with thousands of narcos running around armed to the teeth.

Revolutions in this country tend to get pretty messy. I hope you all don't think that is a good idea.

Given IFE's previous findings, what mechanisms remain to change the results/declare a new election? How likely is that? If none or not likely, isn't the election pretty much decided in a practical sense?

[Alex]

Yes, the election is a done deal. It's all over but for some whining. Throughout the campaign, Mr. Lopez Obrador repeatedly stated that the election was rigged to prevent him from being elected. Had he taken a more positive attitude and run a viable campaign, he may well have won. However, I believe the investigation of irregularities has not been completed...in fact, I believe it has just begun. In the end, the PRI may well be fined for their transgressions but the results of the election will not be changed. Mr. Pena Nieto will, indeed, be the new Presidente.

[Ajijic]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/24/mexicos-summer-of-resistance/

[Alex]

Ajijic, thanks for posting this link...it really helped to clarify some of the issues we've been discussing in this thread.