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#1 smc

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:08 PM

New Pain Meds info-

was told by a doctor in Guad this week that all pain meds containing codeine etc. are no longer available in Mexico i.e Tylex- Tylenol and Codeine or Oxycontin for people who suffer from conditions like cancer, back or severe arthritis , that require ongoing pain medication. He also stated that patients who are currently undergoing surgery will not receive normal pain medications due to recent changes by the Mexican Gov regarding all drug medications previously available by prescrition

Anyone else been told this in the last month ?? Are you still able to get pain med prescriptions or continue to refill existing ones ??

#2 JayBearII

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:29 PM

That would be shocking if so. I will check with my doctor on this. I understand that these meds are only available by Rx and have been told some like morphine or oxycontin must be prescribed by an anesthesiologist, as they are the only ones licensed to prescribe certain painkillers--not sure if this is true, either, but will check.

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 07:29 PM

anesthesiologist is the key to all the controlled dtuff you can get codien "lertus cd" a 50 delflonac y 50 codiene even from walmart but they usally like a days notice seems thats controlled to so they tell the controll guy from som distribution center to bring it and they clessr out at night what they havent sold. at leat here in zapopan.

and ads far as anything else you have to get from a "specialty pharmacy" and from an anesthesiologist special green "secretary salad atamp attached" prescription

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 08:51 PM

You can get the synthetic codeine here without a prescription - it's called Tramadol. It has pretty much the same effect as codeine for me but fewer side effects and it's not supposed to be addictive. They have a version with a little less tradol and it's call Tramacet and has tylenol as well and I find that works the best.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:12 PM

humm, I put a "watch" on this topic since it concerns me very much.
we have not moved to lake chapala area yet-
but i have health issues and have been on opiates for many years now.
so, let me know what the scoop is on this situation. THANKS!

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:19 PM

Having worked in hospice programs, home health care, and hospitals for my whole professional career I cannot imagine not having opiates to treat terminal cancer, AIDS, etc. At some point even the strongest oral drugs do not cover the pain and it is necessary to go to IV, subcutaneous, epidural, intrathecal routes with morphine, Dilaudid, etc.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:41 PM

I understand that you just can't get a prescription from your family doctor for the serious pain meds any longer. You need a special "pain doctor" to get them, and it isn't easy. I recently had some minor surgery and at the end of it, they gave me an under the tongue Dolac for the pain. OMG. Talk about useless. It was.
So......check it out and good luck on that if you have a chronic condition.

If you have serious sinus troubles that Sudafed helps, you can't get that anymore, either, even with a prescription.

There is a certain irony about being in a country where people that really need some pain meds can't get them, but the drug wars continue unabated. <_<

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 02:54 PM

You can get the synthetic codeine here without a prescription - it's called Tramadol. It has pretty much the same effect as codeine for me but fewer side effects and it's not supposed to be addictive. They have a version with a little less tradol and it's call Tramacet and has tylenol as well and I find that works the best.


Simpsca, please be careful in understating the potential for dependancy together with other opiate side effects with tramadol- In my previous healthcarer life I saw many people with dependancy and side effects with medium-long term usage : look at this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 04:23 PM

You can get the synthetic codeine here without a prescription - it's called Tramadol. It has pretty much the same effect as codeine for me but fewer side effects and it's not supposed to be addictive. They have a version with a little less tradol and it's call Tramacet and has tylenol as well and I find that works the best.


I took Tramacet for six months while I was waiting for my hip surgery. I could not walk without it. I had no side effects, no interaction with my other meds and it definitely is not habit forming. You can get it at WalMart without a prescription. And it is not expensive.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:47 PM

I tramadol and had no effect. I have a neurosurgeon who wants to put 6 screws in my back and he gave me these quick dissolving under the tounge like nitrogen for heart tramadol again no effect. I went to angelologist who gave me 2mg liberax which is hydromorphone. Which by the way is what hydrocodone produces after going through your liver and they took the pain away. But again even my neurosurgeon couldn’t give them to me. and the angelologist gave me a speacial green precription which she said keep with the medication at all times. evevrything has changed here UNLESS you live near the frontera then it all chabges. I have a cedula and contac ted the secrec. de salud and they said i can do sched 2 anything else I need a special number. and again there are only a handful of farmacias that carry harder medications. Locals tend not to use harder medications. i even saw a study once on our system diferences producing endorphines but now we are getting to deep.
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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:05 PM

For arthritis pain, I can't recommend anything better than ARDOSONS from Similares. It's practically free and works so well for me. Not sure it would touch six screws in your back tho....

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 09:24 PM

You can get the synthetic codeine here without a prescription - it's called Tramadol. It has pretty much the same effect as codeine for me but fewer side effects and it's not supposed to be addictive. They have a version with a little less tradol and it's call Tramacet and has tylenol as well and I find that works the best.



I take Tramadol for Fibromyalgia. At CostCo, you can get it in liquid form, which works faster and I only take about a 1/4 of what I had to take in pill form. I only take it as needed. I have found that for some pain, Supradol works great, and at night, if I have a lot of pain and can't relax to get to sleep, I take Sirdalud (which is a muscle relaxant). (all prescribed by my doctor, by the way)

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:00 PM

For arthritis pain, I can't recommend anything better than ARDOSONS from Similares. It's practically free and works so well for me. Not sure it would touch six screws in your back tho....



Regarding drugs sold at all major pharmacies here -I bought mine at Costco- Warning- Doctor pointed out to me simalares meds- with the GI label in upper rt hand corner- I had 2 boxes for different conditions- 1 a daily med- told me to throw them in the garbage immediately, as there is no guarantee you are getting a pure product.
He only prescribes Name Brand drugs mainly from USA -costs a lot more - but you know it's a safe product.

2 weeks ago 60 minutes had a segment on drugs produced in Peru for markets like Mexico - Pfizer Dectectives found a production lab with 100,000s of pills packed in silver foil with Pfizer label being produced in a horrible filthy room- Several people had died from drugs produced there- they never caught the guys making them-so they proably set up shop someplace else. The market in Mexico is very large for these drugs- so beware of where you buy.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 04:50 PM

When I had sciatica 3 years ago, no pain medication I tried helped at all. I had slipped on a wet floor a few years ago and unknowingly cracked a couple of lower vertebrae.

I went to a pain specialist here (Dr. Juan Lastra) and he sold me directly from his office a bottle of 100 Oxycodone. They worked well to control the pain, although he charged quite a lot for them - but I didn't care.

I now buy them back in Canada for a fraction of the cost and just take them on an as-needed basis - no addiction, thank goodness.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 06:12 PM

Dr. Lastra has a special pain meds Dr. that comes out once a month. Only he can write scripts for oxycontin, morphine etc. This is a barcoded three page form. Then you, not anyone else must go to one or two pharmacies in Guad to fill the script. And yes one is an anthesiologist supply office. These are not normal phamacias which can not fill the scripts anyway. Be sure you have passport or driver's licence with a picture.




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