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#1 Mainecoons

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:42 AM

The local guy on the street down from the church just isn't getting pumps that are any good. I need to find some place (probably in GDL) that has better pumps and the right sizes.

Any suggestions? I just spend several hundred bucks on these and one of them is already failing for the second time. I have a pond full of fish who need that aeration.

Thanks for your suggestions, will be going to GDL in a week. Given that I see fish ponds all over town with small pump aeration, I know they have to be here somewhere. Just don't know where.



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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:02 AM

Have you tried the bombas shop on the west bound lateral(on the hill by the steel yard) directly opposite Mom's Deli/ Mascaras? He carries better quality pumps from the US and Europe. He also repairs all types of pumps and motors.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:06 AM

Dan I wonder if the voltage fluctuations is killing them? Would Home Depot have them or the hardware store next to Guadalajara Pharmacy as they have a waterfall display. Laguna makes great pumps but need to get it to you. They are also on Ebay. They have been very reliable and low wattage. John


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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:07 AM

This company has a store in Guadalajara. Maybe they could help.

http://www.bombas-hi...cos.com/ingles/

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:09 AM

Techno-Agua also used to carry pond pumps, and may still. They are in Plaza La Huerta, west of Ajijic.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:21 AM

Thank you all VERY much. John, the problem isn't voltage, the problem with this particular pump is that it simply can't handle the normal debris in a pond and the bearings keep going bad. It also plugs up very quickly.

The Spanish made pump that was in this pond previously lasted some years and had no problem with handling debris at all. But I can't find them.

I'll check out all these places.



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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:49 AM

This is a great product although may be overkill for what you need. I used it on a pond I built that was 12 x 9 x 2'.

http://www.pondbiz.c...e_shipping.html

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 01:30 PM

I had the same problem and I put the pum inside a bag I made with mosquitoe netting and then burried the whole thing in gravel, the gravel helped filter the debris. You also need to clean the gravel and netting on a regular basis especially if you have a lot of fish. Fish poop will clock the filter pretty fast otherwise.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (Ajijic @ Mar 14 2009, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dan I wonder if the voltage fluctuations is killing them? Would Home Depot have them or the hardware store next to Guadalajara Pharmacy as they have a waterfall display. Laguna makes great pumps but need to get it to you. They are also on Ebay. They have been very reliable and low wattage. John

http://www.lagunapon...naeng/index.php


Yes, the Home Depot on a large selection of pumps and filters. They even have entire plastic ready to put in the ground systems and pond landscaping supplies.

After entering take an immediate left to the garden sales area and then upon entering an immediate right.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 04:19 PM

QUOTE (deGimp @ Mar 14 2009, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, the Home Depot on a large selection of pumps and filters. They even have entire plastic ready to put in the ground systems and pond landscaping supplies.

After entering take an immediate left to the garden sales area and then upon entering an immediate right.

Have fun,
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Thanks Mike, this is the Home Depot on Lopez Mateos?

I tried a screen, the pump still had problems. Interestingly, the previous one, a Spanish brand, had no problems with the stuff, just pumped it right on through. This one, however, can't handle them. Intakes are way too small.




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Posted 14 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE (Mainecoons @ Mar 14 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Mike, this is the Home Depot on Lopez Mateos?

I tried a screen, the pump still had problems. Interestingly, the previous one, a Spanish brand, had no problems with the stuff, just pumped it right on through. This one, however, can't handle them. Intakes are way too small.


Yep, Lopez Mateos. I've been told there is a larger, better stock HD not far from there (whatever not far means).

I've had my best luck with pumps mfg. by Little Giant, but you're going to find they're about 30-50% more expensive than like U.S. ones. I found this cute little 1/16th HP pump, designed for sump operation, and thought it would be good for recycling large volumes of water in a pretty good size fountain we had. Turned out that this fist sized pump turned a trickle-down fountain into a geyser. Still, it's handy for watering the lawn without running the 1/2HP pressurized water system. We've got ultra-low street water pressure and I hate to run the wattage-sucking 1/2HP. We've got a 1 meter square concrete basin next to the original 50 year old lavanderia and to save water we sand filter outflow from the washer/cut with non-pressurized street water and use the pump to water our rather large back yard.

Unfortunately I loaned it to some folks and forgot to mention that it cannot be run dry. They did and the neoprene impeller melted/shredded. That was a $30 fix.

As for your real problem, debris; You undoubtedly are using a screen to filter out the big stuff. Here in Mexico what I've seen most often is a recessed box to hold the pump and something like a 6" square of 1/4" screening topping it. A superior method is to build a box out of screen as large as is practical and secure it over the inlet. That way, not only does the top have to clog, but the sides also. Factor of 5 improvement in leaf/debris filtering for next to nada.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:52 PM

To aerate your pond you might want to use an air pump instead of a water pump. You can find air pumps in most tropical fish stores. To control the size of the bubbles you can also purchase various sized "air wands" or "stones" priced at about $5.00 with the plastic tubing.



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Posted 15 March 2009 - 10:25 AM

Mainecoons, since Sunshine is such a Mexican princess and is too lazy to clean it for you, if you can wait until I get there with my crew, I'm sure little Sonja (HM Queen Sonja the other one - self-crowned, formerly an asylum seeker) can clean it for you, ably assisted by Schneeball. After they're through, you won't have any fish to worry about to dirty up the pond.

Sonja's been very sick with pneumonia for the past 4-5 weeks. I had to take her to the Kleintierklinikum in Koenigs Wusterhausen, a 2 hr drive each way, 3 times this past week. She's had a long-acting antibiotic injection the first visit and gets theophylline drops 2X daily. I have to take her back this coming Friday. She's getting better, but I'm exhausted from all the driving.




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