[Shira]

I stopped to talk to a Mexican acquaintance today. She and her husband own a business at Lakeside. She told me that they need to find a new store and a new house. In both cases the owners are taking the rentals off the market to use for their own families. I commiserated with her and then she told me she is very upset because with the realtors because she is Mexican the realtors never call her back and did not help her find a house. I was horrified when she told me this. She and her husband have many ties to the greater business community and this story and perception could have a major ripple effect. It was fortunate she told me.

I explained to her that the problem was not hers as a Mexican but the problem of inconsiderate realtors ignoring requests for help in finding a rental. I told her that here on this board as well as in talking to many people the action or reaction by realtors to rental requests is close to non existent for the Canadians and Americans as well. It is a major commplaint.
She got called away at that point but I will follow up with her to reassure her it is not a because she is Mexican that she was ignored.

[jailbait]

I stopped to talk to a Mexican acquaintance today. She and her husband own a business at Lakeside. She told me that they need to find a new store and a new house. In both cases the owners are taking the rentals off the market to use for their own families. I commiserated with her and then she told me she is very upset because with the realtors because she is Mexican the realtors never call her back and did not help her find a house. I was horrified when she told me this. She and her husband have many ties to the greater business community and this story and perception could have a major ripple effect. It was fortunate she told me.

I explained to her that the problem was not hers as a Mexican but the problem of inconsiderate realtors ignoring requests for help in finding a rental. I told her that here on this board as well as in talking to many people the action or reaction by realtors to rental requests is close to non existent for the Canadians and Americans as well. It is a major commplaint.
She got called away at that point but I will follow up with her to reassure her it is not a because she is Mexican that she was ignored.

If she's correct,how is it that Mexicans continue to buy and sell property and businesses while using brokers? Your friend is hypersensitive and feeling sorry for herself. Typical of many Mexicans to blame their troubles on gringos.

[Shira]

If she's correct,how is it that Mexicans continue to buy and sell property and businesses while using brokers? Your friend is hypersensitive and feeling sorry for herself. Typical of many Mexicans to blame their troubles on gringos.

We are talking rentals here not sales and it is a common complaint among the foreign community about the lack of response. She did not know this and thought it was because she was Mexican.

[jailbait]

We are talking rentals here not sales and it is a common complaint among the foreign community about the lack of response. She did not know this and thought it was because she was Mexican.

Well,since it's a rental and not a sale,I guess that makes all the difference.

[Ajijic]

Ann her perception is reality for all of us unfortunately and regardless of race. Laura gives excellent professional service and has listings not always on web site and she is Mexican.

http://www.micasa-aj...com/rentals.htm

It should make no difference if a rental or sale as many positves come out of rentals. I speak from experience as a former realtor. :-)

[ajijiccharlie]

ITypical of many Mexicans to blame their troubles on gringos.

Did you really intend to sound insensitive and judgmental?

[Maddogpir3]

I stopped to talk to a Mexican acquaintance today. She and her husband own a business at Lakeside. She told me that they need to find a new store and a new house. In both cases the owners are taking the rentals off the market to use for their own families. I commiserated with her and then she told me she is very upset because with the realtors because she is Mexican the realtors never call her back and did not help her find a house. I was horrified when she told me this. She and her husband have many ties to the greater business community and this story and perception could have a major ripple effect. It was fortunate she told me.

I explained to her that the problem was not hers as a Mexican but the problem of inconsiderate realtors ignoring requests for help in finding a rental. I told her that here on this board as well as in talking to many people the action or reaction by realtors to rental requests is close to non existent for the Canadians and Americans as well. It is a major commplaint.
She got called away at that point but I will follow up with her to reassure her it is not a because she is Mexican that she was ignored.

Ok so I'm really confused: This Mexican lady is upset because a realtor didn't call her back? You don't say whether the person she was dealing with at the realtor's is gringo or Mexican. My experience is that none of the real estate firms here are exclusively staffed by either gringos or Mexicans. I find it hard to believe that a Mexican lady would be dealing with a gringo realtor on a rental- - -that's just a reach and a half. And her fingers are broken and in casts so she can't pick up the flippin phone to call the realtor back so she can jump up and down because they haven't called her back? Puleeeeeese!!

Too many silly gringos find the need to apologize for anything imaginable that's ever happened or is happening to anyone Mexican. I suppose it ausuages deep seeded guilt? Or maybe develops into a sensational pity party.

[Shira]

Maddogpir3 your comments are absolutely ridiculous. Talk to snowbirds and ask how helpful real estate agents are when it comes to rentals. The realtors do not respond.

[Intercasa]

Realtors make very little off rentals. Couple that with the laid back attitude and many realtors not doing much business (20% do 80% of the business) it is surprising they don't make signs saying they DON'T do rentals. It doesn't make sense to do rentals.

If I was a realtor I wouldn't do them. It is a waste of time unless you manage the units. I think many real estate agents have been burned by playing taxi driver and giving the romance tour of the area in the hopes of earning a few hundred $$$ and selling a home later but then received nothing.

I know some real estate agents help people with rentals but usually they are people who will buy and the real estate agent has asked them some preliminary questions to make sure they are real buyers. Unfortunately many people have apparently come down who cannot make it up north and try to reinvent themselves and have wasted the time of these professionals.

Sometimes people do take a few days to return phone calls, often email is better. It is poor business practice to not return client communications. On the other hand, people in Mexico generally don't return messages or voicemails. that is my experience. I've tried calling some clients and received the maid, machine, etc and called back multiple times during a week. After 2 weeks of it i just give up. I like email better as that never happens or after I respond the ball is in their court.

[JORGE AVELAR]

If she's correct,how is it that Mexicans continue to buy and sell property and businesses while using brokers? Your friend is hypersensitive and feeling sorry for herself. Typical of many Mexicans to blame their troubles on gringos.

What do you mean by if she is correct? And the you come up with a wrong answer mixing selling properties using brokers. She is talking about a realtor in special.
Your comment is ridiculuous critizicing Mexicans blaming gringos. That is not true.
Do you know that person very well to say: "your friend is hypersentive?
In my point of view, without having an exact judgement you have a little trouble getting along with mexicans. Sounds like, I hope I am wrong.

[Maddogpir3]

Maddogpir3 your comments are absolutely ridiculous. Talk to snowbirds and ask how helpful real estate agents are when it comes to rentals. The realtors do not respond.

HEY!!! Here's a concept----------------------------if you're a Mexican or a gringo and the flippin Mexican or gringo realtor doesn't respond quit whining. Quit being a sensative dimwit. Then pick up the phonew, then either call the realtor that hasn't responded or call a different one. And that goes for ANY and ALL services where people don't respond. Geez! Some of you people are either helpless or so sensative as to be in need of a padded cell!

And if that doesn't work call Ghostbusters!

[Ferret]

What do you mean by if she is correct? And the you come up with a wrong answer mixing selling properties using brokers. She is talking about a realtor in special.
Your comment is ridiculuous critizicing Mexicans blaming gringos. That is not true.
Do you know that person very well to say: "your friend is hypersentive?
In my point of view, without having an exact judgement you have a little trouble getting along with mexicans. Sounds like, I hope I am wrong.

Jailbait is rude to just about everyone...just ignore her/him/it.

[Jocotepec]

I suspect Maddog and Jailbait are one and the same based on thier rudeness and insensitivity.

[RVGRINGO]

I share that same suspicion and suspect that those posts come from NoB, not here. I can't imagine such bigoted vitriol from anyone who chose to live here. If I'm wrong, they/he/she must be terribly unhappy and helpless to go back north.

[Islander]

Maddogpir3 your comments are absolutely ridiculous. Talk to snowbirds and ask how helpful real estate agents are when it comes to rentals. The realtors do not respond.

True statement. They do not respond. Neither Mexicans or gringos. (That is our experience.) And if they respond and find that they do not have what you want - do not expect the "sorry we cannot help" statement - just silence.

[Islander]

HEY!!! Here's a concept----------------------------if you're a Mexican or a gringo and the flippin Mexican or gringo realtor doesn't respond quit whining. Quit being a sensative dimwit. Then pick up the phonew, then either call the realtor that hasn't responded or call a different one. And that goes for ANY and ALL services where people don't respond. Geez! Some of you people are either helpless or so sensative as to be in need of a padded cell!

And if that doesn't work call Ghostbusters!

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Perhaps you can give an advice if down the long calling road even Ghostbusters do not answer. What next? Who you gonna call?

[Maddogpir3]

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Perhaps you can give an advice if down the long calling road even Ghostbusters do not answer. What next?

LOL- - -well we all know if we can't call Ghostbusters who can we call.

I share that same suspicion and suspect that those posts come from NoB, not here. I can't imagine such bigoted vitriol from anyone who chose to live here. If I'm wrong, they/he/she must be terribly unhappy and helpless to go back north

I live here and have done so for several years. I have no idea who someone called "jailbait" would be. And where does the "bigoted" part come from?

Look, this isn't about sensitivity. That's nonsense. This is about effecting (here comes that word so many of you just HATE) change in our hosts. And this is the kind of change that we can help to effect without being jerks about it. Here's a Mexican lady who needs a service and can't get it. It's a part of Mexican culture (as far as I and others that I know well can see) to accept things as being "fate". The rental rep doesn't call back and the Mexican lady is lost so she accepts it as fate without taking a pro-active stance and making something happen. So rather than falling into pity party mode and "commiserating" with her why not tell her how to get the help she needs and wants. And if you really want to put your money where your commiserating mouth is why not take the Mexican lady in your car down to the real estate office, go to the owner or general manger, state the case and show the Mexican lady how to make something happen on her own! If it was you being ignored would you sit back and live with it? I think and hope not!

Commiserating and sympathizing are lovely gestures and posting your moral outrage is a wonderful thing to do. But neither action soves a darn thing! The Mexican lady still needs a place to rent doesn't she?! And just what have you done to help with that?



ps- - -the op still hasn't identified as to whether the rental agent is a Mexican or gringo and that would seem to be a major point.

[AmyLee]

LOL- - -well we all know if we can't call Ghostbusters who can we call.

I share that same suspicion and suspect that those posts come from NoB, not here. I can't imagine such bigoted vitriol from anyone who chose to live here. If I'm wrong, they/he/she must be terribly unhappy and helpless to go back north

I live here and have done so for several years. I have no idea who someone called "jailbait" would be. And where does the "bigoted" part come from?

Look, this isn't about sensitivity. That's nonsense. This is about effecting (here comes that word so many of you just HATE) change in our hosts. And this is the kind of change that we can help to effect without being jerks about it. Here's a Mexican lady who needs a service and can't get it. It's a part of Mexican culture (as far as I and others that I know well can see) to accept things as being "fate". The rental rep doesn't call back and the Mexican lady is lost so she accepts it as fate without taking a pro-active stance and making something happen. So rather than falling into pity party mode and "commiserating" with her why not tell her how to get the help she needs and wants. And if you really want to put your money where your commiserating mouth is why not take the Mexican lady in your car down to the real estate office, go to the owner or general manger, state the case and show the Mexican lady how to make something happen on her own! If it was you being ignored would you sit back and live with it? I think and hope not!

Commiserating and sympathizing are lovely gestures and posting your moral outrage is a wonderful thing to do. But neither action soves a darn thing! The Mexican lady still needs a place to rent doesn't she?! And just what have you done to help with that?



ps- - -the op still hasn't identified as to whether the rental agent is a Mexican or gringo and that would seem to be a major point.

Personally, I just happen to agree with “Maddogir3”. Talk is cheap and trying to be political correct should be just embarrassing. Where is the true & helpful concern? I believe he’s saying get off your @ss and do something that is truly helpful. Open your eyes folks there is a real world out there. I could be wrong but dreaming once-in-awhile helps the sole.

[Sherwood]

Personally, I just happen to agree with “Maddogir3”. Talk is cheap and trying to be political correct should be just embarrassing. Where is the true & helpful concern? I believe he’s saying get off your @ss and do something that is truly helpful. Open your eyes folks there is a real world out there. I could be wrong but dreaming once-in-awhile helps the sole.

Dreaming helps the sole of your foot,the sole of your shoe? or maybe your pet fish?

[hensley]

I agree that this situation is ridiculous, I saw a sign on a gate by a realtor, I have called and left messages for the person, so then I decided to e-mail the company, I have heard good and bad about this company.
Well I have had no response, so explain to me if they don't make any money through rentals then why do they hang their signs on them?