Dogs at the Ajijic park

[gringal]

And finally............just returned from my morning Malecon Ajijic walk. Apparently people (a) didn't read this thread or ( did or didn't, but really don't give a dang.

Statistics (before 8:30): 3 leased dogs with owners carrying baggies. 15 unleashed, don't know about baggies, more or less following owners. 6 dogs, unleashed, with no evident owners. 3 piles of poop on the cement; unknown piles on beach.

That's it, folks. Another typical day on the Malecon, except that I decided to keep count today, just for the helluvit.

Don't look heavenward. You make step in a pile below.

[Guest verchiel]

An unleashed dog does not a pile of un-retrieved-poop-by-master make. I have allowed my dogs off leash on the malecon if there aren't many dogs around. I always watch them and pick up their poop. Please don't devolve this dog poop discussion to a "dogs off leash" discussion ... some of us train our dogs to be off leash and return. But we always pick up our poop.

[Mainecoons]

As much of it as you can pick up. If the least bit runny, there's a residue. Sometimes, more than a little residue.

Children play on those lawns. Please do not let your dogs poop or piss there. You can't pick up piss.

Parks are for people, not for dog poop and piss.

Thanks.

[Ajijic]

This is really a Sh*tty topic LOL

Wow I used that word and got banned. lol

[ChrisB]

There was a time when we first moved here 12 years ago, when periodically they did round the street dogs up and they died. I think they stopped because the Mexicans complained that some of them lost their pets. We are slowly getting them accepting of spaying and neutering as many show up at the free sterilization clinics. BUT I doubt you are going to convince the average Mexican citizen that they should confine their dogs to the house.

I always carry extra bags and I like many others do pick up after my own and anything else I find. We can't DNA test so who knows who left it there. ;-)

As for unleashed mine are. I can't walk four leashed dogs with my knee. I am the lady with the cane. They are watched carefully and I pick up after all of them religiously. They come back when called and don't go too far from Mother.They have many friends there who are often unleashed. You will see many on the malecon unleashed BUT most with an owner carefully watching. That is not a far ranging street dog. I agree with some posters that this Mexico not the U.S. where god forbid your dog should be off leash.

[ChrisB]

Mudgirl,

Friends of animals here did offer cheap or free sterilization of pets for the Mexican population. Not sure if they ran out of money or if they are still doing it. Operation Amour also offers three day clinics doing the same thing. All you have to do is walk in the door and register. Sadly I will say that the number of males snipped is nowhere near the number of females spayed. Macho still reigns there. That unneutered free roaming male can sire a whole lot of puppies. Too bad they don't just round up those roaming males and snip!! Then they can go back home.

[cbviajero]

Children play on those lawns. Please do not let your dogs poop or piss there. You can't pick up piss.

Parks are for people, not for dog poop and piss.

Thanks.

I agree.

[gringal]

And what about that leash law? Are foreigners exempt from laws they don't feel like following, as seems to be the consensus on this thread? Laws are for other people? Are we somehow special, and when we moved to Mexico, we became free of all those rules and regs, so we can do as we please? Tell that to the traffic cop. Should be interesting.

So far, most of this has been about picking up poop. What about the non-pickupable piss that the dog owners do nothing to prevent. It stinks, and it graces every bench and other standing object.

If the day comes when that canine family member goes out in public wearing diapers and can't piss on every bench it comes to or poop slime, I'll change my opinion. As it is, the benches stink and residual slime is a memorable experience.

Have pet owners forgotten that people aren't allowed to urinate and defecate in public?

Why not get a dog park and use it? There is one already. Leave the people park to the people.

[Mainecoons]

You will see many on the malecon unleashed BUT most with an owner carefully watching.

And you all never let your unleashed dogs wander over to the lawns where children play and families picnic and use those lawns as a bathroom?

Pardon me, but I'm a little skeptical. Particularly when practically every time I'm down there in the morning removing tags I see unleashed gringo dogs squatting on the lawns, pissing on the play equipment, buildings, light poles, etc.. And their gringo owners watching as if this fouling of the grounds is perfectly OK.

We expats should be setting an example and observing the leash laws enacted by our Mexican hosts.

[satnrose]

And what about that leash law? I guess Gringos are exempt from laws they don't feel like following, as that seems to be the consensus on this thread. Laws are for other people. We are somehow special, and when we moved to Mexico, we became free of all those rules and regs, so we can do as we please. Or something like that. Tell that to the traffic cop. lol.

I also agree that parks are for people, not dog piss and poop. When I see a family having a picnic with their little kids running around......I can imagine only too well what happens. Doesn't anyone care about that?

If the day comes when that canine family member goes out in public wearing diapers and can't piss on every bench it comes to, I'll change my opinion. As it is, the benches stink, and "responsible owners" are the exception.

Laws are either respected by the majority or they are not. Few local Mexicans who live central by the park use leashes. If the law is not respected then it should be enforced. If not enforced or respected it is a useless and pointless law.

[LaChula]

And finally............just returned from my morning Malecon Ajijic walk. Apparently people (a) didn't read this thread or ( did or didn't, but really don't give a dang.

Statistics (before 8:30): 3 leased dogs with owners carrying baggies. 15 unleashed, don't know about baggies, more or less following owners. 6 dogs, unleashed, with no evident owners. 3 piles of poop on the cement; unknown piles on beach.

That's it, folks. Another typical day on the Malecon, except that I decided to keep count today, just for the helluvit.

Don't look heavenward. You make step in a pile below.

It wasn't that bad when were were out, before 8:00 a.m. There is one older Mexican man, who used to be a teacher who usually walks 4 dogs of different sizes. He never picks up after them, and recently, always goes down to the lake.

[gringal]

Since it's a Mexican law.......should it be enforced, repealed, or ignored, in your opinion?

Beg to differ on Mexicans and leashes. Most Mexicans walking on the malecon in Ajijic don't bring a dog at all, and use the park facilities for exercise. In fact, most people in general using the walkway don't bring dogs. At least, that has been my observation. So far, the human population exceeds the pup pop.

[wisecracker]

Since we happen to have a rather large rescue golden, a chilango in fact, let me say this about that.

Owners need to deal with this issue. Somewhat like taking dogs to restaurants. If your dog is a pooper in public, you had best walk around with a pooper scooper or a baggy. Take your choice. Our dog is well behaved, adored by everyone and is very welcome in some establishments because he knows his place. Under the table and not visiting or begging much less sitting on seats. Uggghhhh. As a professional parasitologist, I just hate to imagine what nasties may be released by an improperly cared for pet. Thank y'all for listening.

We happen to have a small place in town and MUST deal with the issue there. In the country our gardener does the dirty work.

Town gardeners apparently think that even if paid, they are not required to pick up poop, at least the ones in our condo. In fact we did offer 50 pesos a week. The one with the really bad attitude wandered over to my husband and requested a bag. He promptly returned bag in hand and gave it to my husband. Who in turn told him to put it in the garbage por favor.

Speaking of town. Apparently there was some excitement last night and this morning, however all appears to be fine now. All clear siren sounded.

[satnrose]

Since it's a Mexican law.......should it be enforced, repealed, or ignored, in your opinion?

Beg to differ on Mexicans and leashes. Most Mexicans walking on the malecon in Ajijic don't bring a dog at all, and use the park facilities for exercise. In fact, most people in general using the walkway don't bring dogs. At least, that has been my observation. So far, the human population exceeds the pup pop.

I've seen mexican's who do bring there dogs to the park without leashes. The gringos outnumber them. A large number of Mexican owned dogs are free to walk the village and the parks, returning home when they want. Unfortunately some don't last long. No worries, eh .....they just get another dog. *groan*

[chapalafan]

As for unleashed mine are. I can't walk four leashed dogs with my knee. I am the lady with the cane. They are watched carefully and I pick up after all of them religiously. They come back when called and don't go too far from Mother.They have many friends there who are often unleashed. You will see many on the malecon unleashed BUT most with an owner carefully watching. That is not a far ranging street dog. I agree with some posters that this Mexico not the U.S. where god forbid your dog should be off leash.

Before we were married, my family lived in Spring Lake NJ; also known as the Irish Riviera . One winter day we were walking on the beach.The only ones for miles around and a cop stopped and was going to issue us a citation for walking a dog (unleashed) on the beach. Harry said, " no problem, make it out to the mayor . It is her dog" He got in the car and left. Democracy in action!

So I guess what we have learned is that if you "know" the right people or find that a law/ordinance is not convenient or to ones liking, it is OK to disregard it.

[bwhite1948]

FOUR dogs, all UNleashed being "watched" by one lady with a cane. What are the chances she 'misses' a poop once in awhile?

[wisecracker]

FOUR dogs, all UNleashed being "watched" by one lady with a cane. What are the chances she 'misses' a poop once in awhile?

Best to keep your eyes on the ground as you walk here for a variety of reasons. Other than that I have no comment.

[RVGRINGO]

Shoot them all! Take your choice regarding the definition of all.

Canes at ten paces and long sleeved white jackets for the survivors.

[Mainecoons]

So now you're in favor of water pollution? I'm gittin' my cane out!!

:D

Fight it. Drink only beer or Tequila!

[MtnMama]

The town where I lived NOB provided large metal poop-bag holders at the dog parks and on a popular hiking trail. Those of us who really cared brought our excess bags and put them in the bag holders. And of course used them for our dogs as well. It made a tremendous difference because the bags were readily available. Did EVERYONE pick up their dog poop? Nope. Did lots more folks pick up after their dogs? Sure did.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[chapalafan]

There appears to be a bit of hypocrisy here. Some of the violators of the leash ordinances are the same people who are working diligently to improve the quality of life at Lakeside. For clarity, please explain where is the line drawn?

I totally agree with Gringal (post 83) and Mainecoons (post 84).