Mad_Max Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Why don't you spend half as much time looking at the whole picture as opposed to dwelling on finding the fly in the ointment. What part of: *ALL DATA FROM SERVICIO METEOROLÓGICO NACIONAL de MEXICO seems to evade you? A weather station looks like this: Servicio Meteorologico shows NO weather stations in Chapala that I could find.. No reasons to get your feathers all fluffy - just asking specifically where you got the data from as it is definitely NOT from a weather station in Chapala. No fly in that ointment cause no weather station is chapala..
Xcalaker Posted May 13, 2013 Author Report Posted May 13, 2013 Servicio Meteorologico shows NO weather stations in Chapala that I could find.. No reasons to get your feathers all fluffy - just asking specifically where you got the data from as it is definitely NOT from a weather station in Chapala. No fly in that ointment cause no weather station is chapala.. http://smn.cna.gob.mx/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42&Itemid=75 I found the CHAPALA station there. Perhaps the station is not there anymore but it does cite the (rough) location of one. 20°17'00" N. 103°12'00" W. But as you can see, a 'weather station' is not very big and could be anywhere.
Mad_Max Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 http://smn.cna.gob.mx/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42&Itemid=75 I found the CHAPALA station there. Perhaps the station is not there anymore but it does cite the (rough) location of one. 20°17'00" N. 103°12'00" W. But as you can see, a 'weather station' is not very big and could be anywhere. interesting - did find a map of the weather stations - looks like one might be on de alacranes http://smn.cna.gob.mx/emas/ and select jalisco - looks like several in the area
Studio del Sol Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Lakeside has a weather station. Steve's weather station-- www.chapalaweather.net ? Looks pretty professional to me and he has a web cam to boot.
afgh Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Many a retired souls have moved to the Lake Chapala area after living in SMA because they are tired of replanting their gardens every year because of the frost killing everything in it. I have lived in Ajijic for over 18 years and have never lost anything in my garden because of frost.
gringal Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Many a retired souls have moved to the Lake Chapala area after living in SMA because they are tired of replanting their gardens every year because of the frost killing everything in it. I have lived in Ajijic for over 18 years and have never lost anything in my garden because of frost. Yes indeed. But then there are the souls who move enthusiastically to that even higher elevated old city nearby, Guanajuato, only to watch everything die on a yearly schedule. I love the way things grow right here.
Canamex Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Just to further flesh out this topic, we lived for three years in Guadalajara - going by "body feel", winters in Pinar de la Venta (Zapopan) were definitely colder than Ajijic but the coldest I actually saw it on a thermometer was 7 celsius. We didn't experience any freezes. We were told that Guadalajara was snowed on and had a freeze that killed most of the palm trees on Lazaro Cardenas in the nineties. The most peculiar thing for me is that in mid-June the area around the Abastos market would get severe hail storms. That's kind of like snow to me. In June. Floods are regular and heavy in Guadalajara because of sudden severe rainstorms that the infrastructure is not equipped to handle - manhole covers floating into cars; cars trapped in tunnels and people drowning trying to escape. All in all, Ajijic has a very moderate climate compared to many other inland places in Mexico.
giltner68 Posted May 13, 2013 Report Posted May 13, 2013 Well, if you can believe Goggle Earth, those coordinates are about where the dredging is happening off the Chapala pier, a few hundred yards out in the lake? Actually, Dr. Stong has been trying to get info from Conagua for some time without results as far as I know. Weather stations are subjective, a few years ago when the climate warming craze was going around a group went out and did a physical survey of existing weather sites reporting to the Nat Weather service. Turned out some used to be out in grassy areas at airports which were originally air "fields" and now instead of grass they're sitting in asphalt parking areas, one was at the exit vent of an AC unit, another was directly in line with a jet warmup area. It isn't hard to look up at your temp indicator as you drive by Don Miguel and when you get home here check and find it can be as much as 10 degrees warmer etc. Quoting numbers is a game, be careful, what really counts is "what feels good" to you.
latraviesa Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 Hard to really do much comparison between the two places. I found them to be so much different, yet enjoyable. People are good in both places, but have different agendas, different life styles. One has the Lake, the other, the Jardin and food, etc. One not important to many, nor the other to others. Kinda like Gto., so different, but with many pluses for those who live there. All have their problems, but somewhat different. All worth a trip and several days to enjoy. I lived in Ajijic for 18 yrs and moved to SMA nearly a year ago. I find the weather about the same but the nites are always cool. We´re having overcast days now and I find that if you do everything you need to do before 1 or 2, then go out again at 6, you avoid the hottest times. I miss the dissipating lake, but have seen it come and go thruout the years, I love the sophistication of a larger city, there are MANY, MANY things to do. I actually have an active social nite life here, whereas in Ajijic, I found it difficult to go out at nite and drive 12 west. They´re both great places, depends on what you´re looking for
alex45920 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 Well, if you can believe Goggle Earth, those coordinates are about where the dredging is happening off the Chapala pier, a few hundred yards out in the lake? Actually, Dr. Stong has been trying to get info from Conagua for some time without results as far as I know. Weather stations are subjective, a few years ago when the climate warming craze was going around a group went out and did a physical survey of existing weather sites reporting to the Nat Weather service. Turned out some used to be out in grassy areas at airports which were originally air "fields" and now instead of grass they're sitting in asphalt parking areas, one was at the exit vent of an AC unit, another was directly in line with a jet warmup area. It isn't hard to look up at your temp indicator as you drive by Don Miguel and when you get home here check and find it can be as much as 10 degrees warmer etc. Quoting numbers is a game, be careful, what really counts is "what feels good" to you. Giltner, you may find this of interest. Dr. Richard Muller, a leading skeptic of global warming, set out to prove, scientifically, that it was based upon the false data from weather stations which you refer to. http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2012/07/30/the-conversion-of-a-climate-change-skeptic/
giltner68 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 And, you would expect nothing less from "Berkley Earth" yada yada. Here you go, tell these guys about global "warming" http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=18824.0
johanson Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I shout Chapala used to have a weather station that was connected to the now defunct Mexican Weather channel. I think its been at least ten years since it was there. And as you all well know we now have a great privately owned (by Steve) weather station
alex45920 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 And, you would expect nothing less from "Berkley Earth" yada yada. Here you go, tell these guys about global "warming" http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=18824.0 Comparing weather to climate is much like comparing apples to oranges.
giltner68 Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 Yes, isn't it, and comparing co2 to "warming" has given the greatest tool to government to tax and control they could ever have imagined or dreamed. Trillions and trillions and absolutely zero proof, other than a few (purposely) skewed computer data models and a few anomalies suited to their purpose. And yes, the world may be warming or cooling, who can say, but to attempt to tax and control it (the only two things gov is good at) is ludicrous and repugnant approaching immoral if not illegal (but then isn't that what our current world is built on? - illegal and immoral me too, me first?). And, quite bluntly, who are we to say the "current" weather conditions are optimal? To them I say "get a life, get an honest job" and if you can't, they always say "those who can, do (work) and those who can't teach".
CocinaMod Posted May 14, 2013 Report Posted May 14, 2013 I don't even remember WHAT the topic was, but it's gone OT and closed now.
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