Alpha1 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Travel warning issued for Playa del Carmen in wake of ferry explosion https://ca.yahoo.com/news/travel-warning-issued-playa-del-194348926.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 The ferry company says it is fake news and that the explosion was caused by a mechanical problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 "The U.S. Embassy in Mexico said Thursday that a security alert about the Caribbean resort of Playa del Carmen was not related to an explosion on a ferry that injured at least two dozen people." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-mexico-playa-del-carmen-threat-unrelated-to-ferries/2018/03/08/1cc30722-233a-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.ca92e9f3e293 Vid of the explosion: https://www.cbsnews.com/video/security-video-shows-playa-del-carmen-ferry-explosion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addtocart Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 20 hours ago, bmh said: The ferry company says it is fake news and that the explosion was caused by a mechanical problem. Yep. A mechanical problem that blew ten seats 30 feet through the walls of the boat and 30 feet away into the sea. Nothing to see here, please board the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerbit Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, addtocart said: Yep. A mechanical problem that blew ten seats 30 feet through the walls of the boat and 30 feet away into the sea. Nothing to see here, please board the boat. If gas fumes built up in an engine room below, what happened isn't far fetched here at all. Actually they are lucky nobody died. Former boat owner here, smell fuel, ventilate & evacuate. Don't fire up the engines. But police did say a bomb was found on another boat in the area..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, zerbit said: But police did say a bomb was found on another boat in the area..... Poor maintenance I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComputerGuy Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, zerbit said: ... But police did say a bomb was found on another boat in the area..... So I HAD to research that, and yes: https://www.travelagentcentral.com/destinations/reports-playa-del-carmen-ferry-explosion-caused-by-bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/homemade-bomb-was-cause-of-ferry-blast/ Quote The explosion on a passenger ferry in Playa del Carmen, Quintana Roo, February 21 was caused by a homemade bomb, federal authorities have determined. According to a joint investigation by the federal Attorney General’s office (PGR) and the Secretariat of the Navy, the explosive device was placed intentionally on the vessel operated by the company Barcos Caribe and detonated remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addtocart Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 23 hours ago, zerbit said: If gas fumes built up in an engine room below, what happened isn't far fetched here at all. Actually they are lucky nobody died. Former boat owner here, smell fuel, ventilate & evacuate. Don't fire up the engines. Granted. But I'm sure you've seen the video of the seats and other debris flying straight out from the passenger cabin area, not from below. The lower part of the boat, at least on the exterior, didn't seem to be harmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 11, 2018 Report Share Posted March 11, 2018 Another mysterious case and we will probably never know what really happened.. We will hear whatever the authorities will wants the public to know and end of subject.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 The latest goodie is that the owner may have done it to embarrass the governor and to collect insurance.. a good one.. and the US think the cartels are bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 There's very little difference between cartel criminals and government criminals in Mexico. Not hard to guess where the family got the money to own a ferry line. At least the cartels sell something stupid people want. And they bring in as much as 30 billion per year to Mexico. The government criminals OTOH take money from Mexicans, steal earthquake and flood relief, pay themselves higher salaries than Swiss bureaucrats get, and walk off with the furniture and bank accounts at the end of their term. They don't sell anything but corruption. Not much of a choice there between cartel criminals and government criminals, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1 Posted March 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Mainecoons said: There's very little difference between cartel criminals and government criminals in Mexico. Not hard to guess where the family got the money to own a ferry line. At least the cartels sell something stupid people want. And they bring in as much as 30 billion per year to Mexico. The government criminals OTOH take money from Mexicans, steal earthquake and flood relief, pay themselves higher salaries than Swiss bureaucrats get, and walk off with the furniture and bank accounts at the end of their term. They don't sell anything but corruption. Not much of a choice there between cartel criminals and government criminals, eh? Mexico's surging narco violence is intensifying at the edges of one of its biggest tourist hotspots http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-narco-violence-tourist-hubs-playa-del-carmen-cancun-2018-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Lot of problems also due to the election. Guadalajara also seeing many killings recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 21 hours ago, Alpha1 said: Mexico's surging narco violence is intensifying at the edges of one of its biggest tourist hotspots http://www.businessinsider.com/mexico-narco-violence-tourist-hubs-playa-del-carmen-cancun-2018-3 An interesting read that just confirms this is more of the same inter-cartel warfare that is driving much of the crime in Mexico. And at the bottom of it all as per usual are tourists and others who buy drugs and other sordid "services" from these people and put money in their hands. I'm sure you noticed the reference to their companion partners in crime, government: Quote The Cartel de Cancun was reportedly made up of several former judicial officials and ex-members of other criminal groups, like the Zetas and the Gulf cartel. Her group, which infiltrated police forces and the state prosecutor's office... As long as there are buyers there will be sellers. It has been so throughout human history. Corruption and crime starts with those who buy from it, tolerate it and ultimately benefit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro malo Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 On March 12, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Mainecoons said: There's very little difference between cartel criminals and government criminals in Mexico. Not hard to guess where the family got the money to own a ferry line. At least the cartels sell something stupid people want. And they bring in as much as 30 billion per year to Mexico. The government criminals OTOH take money from Mexicans, steal earthquake and flood relief, pay themselves higher salaries than Swiss bureaucrats get, and walk off with the furniture and bank accounts at the end of their term. They don't sell anything but corruption. Not much of a choice there between cartel criminals and government criminals, eh? Bravo Mainecoons! Pretty much sums it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowyco Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/11/2018 at 11:31 AM, bmh said: Another mysterious case and we will probably never know what really happened.. We will hear whatever the authorities will wants the public to know and end of subject.. Q.Roo reports from Chetumal say that the ferry company is owned by a former Q. Roo governor & one of his relatives. This former governor is also reported to be involved in several 'disputes' with 'competitors'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yes I got that too..we are all staying tuned in until we get more news.. Pretty unreal so far.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 9:42 AM, Mainecoons said: There's very little difference between cartel criminals and government criminals in Mexico. Not hard to guess where the family got the money to own a ferry line. At least the cartels sell something stupid people want. And they bring in as much as 30 billion per year to Mexico. The government criminals OTOH take money from Mexicans, steal earthquake and flood relief, pay themselves higher salaries than Swiss bureaucrats get, and walk off with the furniture and bank accounts at the end of their term. They don't sell anything but corruption. Not much of a choice there between cartel criminals and government criminals, eh? This story in Mexico News Daily serves to illustrate this point: https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/for-blue-jays-pitcher-el-chapo-is-a-hero/ Quote The sportsman explained to the Star that Guzmán, who as head of the Sinaloa Cartel controlled a billion-dollar criminal empire, would often help out people who were having it tough. “For me, he helped a lot of people, way more than what the government has done. He’s a hero in Mexico, I respect that,” Osuna said. Openly expressing his fondness for the imprisoned capo is unlikely to endear him to Blue Jays management, the Star noted, but it also described his honesty as “refreshing.” Osuna justified Guzmán’s actions by pointing out that drug consumers in the United States “are the ones who made the guy rich.” “So I don’t think it’s his fault. If I’m doing something and it’s working out for me, I’m going to keep doing it, right?” he added. This is how things are seen at ground level and goes a long ways to explain how these cartels often are more popular than the government. And speaking of the latter I see our own rogue government has allowed that noxious high rise in La Floresta to resume construction in defiance of both court orders and the wishes of the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Also saw workers on raddisson blue site yesterday..thought that had also been stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecoons Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 No it has resumed. As far as I know, no legal actions against it. In the case of La Floresta no reversal of the stop orders, the builders in cahoots with the Chapala government are simply flouting the law. Hopefully this time the very experienced Mexican legal team fighting this project will get someone sent to jail for deliberately ignoring judicial orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bowie Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Mainecoons said: No it has resumed. As far as I know, no legal actions against it. In the case of La Floresta no reversal of the stop orders, the builders in cahoots with the Chapala government are simply flouting the law. Hopefully this time the very experienced Mexican legal team fighting this project will get someone sent to jail for deliberately ignoring judicial orders. There is absolute disrespect for laws and rarely enforcement here. When those few attempt to do what they were hired to do, all hell breaks loose. Ref. NOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 do not hold your breath about anything being done or happening..The federal zone got taken over to the point that it is difficult to walk near the lake, nothing happened when the condos went over the permit heights on the libramiento and chances are that nothing will be done about the La Floresta condos either..It is all pretty bad but it is what goes on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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