michael2595 Posted September 16, 2017 Report Share Posted September 16, 2017 Being built across the road from the Chula Vista Golf Club. http://theguadalajarareporter.net/index.php/news/news/lake-chapala/50641-lakeside-hospital-breaks-ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeOnOrcas Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 This is amazing news. We plan to move down next year. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Santiago Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Keep posted regarding a project that will encompass 30,000 square meters of construction and will be built in ONE PHASE. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Let the race begin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelonaman Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, RickS said: Let the race begin..... Between two hospitals and a bike lane! Whats the betting none of them are ever finished? Can this small area justify two private hospitals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy2013 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 This is next to Vista Alegre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hospital comparison shopping. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, daisy2013 said: This is next to Vista Alegre There goes the neighborhood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Wonder if these hospitals would consider offering their own health insurance plans, limited to services at their facility. Some business analysts think it could be a smart financial move for private hospitals to do this, cut out the middleman. Here's an article from CNBC. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/02/hospitals-can-kill-the-health-insurance-industry-commentary.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Maybe so but that would take a whole 'nuther level of business acumen that they would have to have/acquire in order to price it so as to not loose their shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bournemouth Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 A hospital in Hermosillo, Sonora, whose name evades me at the moment (!) has been offering such a policy for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 2:08 PM, Dr.Santiago said: Keep posted regarding a project that will encompass 30,000 square meters of construction What??? That is 322,900 sq. ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 The basic problem with that and many other types of plans with a similar idea is that of adverse selection. Folks with preexisting conditions and/or suspicions they will need that service flock to sign up. Others tend to wait and see and sign up in much fewer numbers. So the provider ends up with a high percentage of enrolees using the service and not enough well people to make a profitable mix. Other types of insurance, such as homeowners or auto, don't have that problem as most people don't expect to have a fire or auto accident and those with a greater risk can be charged a higher premium. People with a history of cancer or heart disease can't really be charged enough to offset what their costs will likely be. Exactly why Obamacare is having financial problems. Perhaps require ALL newly turned 18 year olds to buy health insurance and keep it in force or face the prospect of being turned away from care if they have no insurance or can't pay? It's the only answer from a purely "insurance" standpoint but would never be acceptable to society as a whole. As with any commodity that is in finite supply, in this case health care, some way must be devised to determine who gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, pappysmarket said: The basic problem with that and many other types of plans with a similar idea is that of adverse selection. Folks with preexisting conditions and/or suspicions they will need that service flock to sign up. Others tend to wait and see and sign up in much fewer numbers. So the provider ends up with a high percentage of enrolees using the service and not enough well people to make a profitable mix. Other types of insurance, such as homeowners or auto, don't have that problem as most people don't expect to have a fire or auto accident and those with a greater risk can be charged a higher premium. People with a history of cancer or heart disease can't really be charged enough to offset what their costs will likely be. Exactly why Obamacare is having financial problems. Perhaps require ALL newly turned 18 year olds to buy health insurance and keep it in force or face the prospect of being turned away from care if they have no insurance or can't pay? It's the only answer from a purely "insurance" standpoint but would never be acceptable to society as a whole. As with any commodity that is in finite supply, in this case health care, some way must be devised to determine who gets it. Not talking about Obamacare or any national plan for "society as a whole." Talking about concept that a hospital offers its own insurance, directly to potential patients, cutting out the middle man (insurance company). Hospital can make whatever rules it wants for its own insurance, limit whoever by age, pre-existing conditions, high deducts, caps, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisbee Gal Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, bournemouth said: A hospital in Hermosillo, Sonora, whose name evades me at the moment (!) has been offering such a policy for some time. I think also Hospital de la Fe in SMA offered some sort of pre-paid plans when it first opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, Bisbee Gal said: Not talking about Obamacare or any national plan for "society as a whole." Talking about concept that a hospital offers its own insurance, directly to potential patients, cutting out the middle man (insurance company). Hospital can make whatever rules it wants for its own insurance, limit whoever by age, pre-existing conditions, high deducts, caps, etc. That's always the tough job for an actuary. Price it low enough to attract enough of the "right" people but high enough to make a profit. Not as easy as it might seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 "Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated." D.J.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Healthcare is actually not very complicated. Who gets it, at what cost, and who pays the bills is what gets complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael2595 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, pappysmarket said: Healthcare is actually not very complicated. Who gets it, at what cost, and who pays the bills is what gets complicated. Are we really practicing health care. More like sick care . If we practiced healthcare then our foods wouldn't be so bad, healthwise and we would eat more plant based foods and make sure that processed foods are to a minimum. We would ban high fructose corn syrup and any ingredient that had more than 4 syllables. Roundup would be illegal every where. Just look at the explosion of diabetes and kidney disease and heart disease in Mexico and look at the diet . Coca Cola being introduced into Mexico has had such a terrible effect on the population because the local drinks which weren't so sugar laden bow had to compete and up their sugar content. Look at the Japanese diet or the Mediterranean diet. Very healthy people until you introduce the processed crud. "healthcare today in so many places is "here is a Pill". That pill brings on other issues and now you are on a cocktail of pills. Slippery slope. So many diseases can be prevented and even healed with proper nutrition and abstaining from so many processed foods and having a clean diet. Al one has to do is look at the first few ingredients that are on packaged or canned foods . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappysmarket Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 Sounds like you would prefer a King (as long as He subscribed to your way of thinking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gringal Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, pappysmarket said: Sounds like you would prefer a King (as long as He subscribed to your way of thinking). Wouldn't everybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, michael2595 said: Are we really practicing health care. More like sick care . If we practiced healthcare then our foods wouldn't be so bad, healthwise and we would eat more plant based foods and make sure that processed foods are to a minimum. We would ban high fructose corn syrup and any ingredient that had more than 4 syllables. Roundup would be illegal every where. Just look at the explosion of diabetes and kidney disease and heart disease in Mexico and look at the diet . Coca Cola being introduced into Mexico has had such a terrible effect on the population because the local drinks which weren't so sugar laden bow had to compete and up their sugar content. Look at the Japanese diet or the Mediterranean diet. Very healthy people until you introduce the processed crud. "healthcare today in so many places is "here is a Pill". That pill brings on other issues and now you are on a cocktail of pills. Slippery slope. So many diseases can be prevented and even healed with proper nutrition and abstaining from so many processed foods and having a clean diet. Al one has to do is look at the first few ingredients that are on packaged or canned foods . I agree. The concept should be to prevent disease. So, who should get health care insurance? Roll it out to the children first and then follow up with education that will help them lead a better and healthier life. I doubt that even the parents would object to not being included if they didn't have to worry about their kids. imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Santiago Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 30,000 meters is approx. 98425.197 feet. KEEP POSTED only 2 or 3 more weeks until the BIG NEWS (including all the juicy details) BREAKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xena Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 I pay attention to where threads tend to wander. It gauges interest and reveal what people have on their minds. Sometimes posters keep attempting to yank threads back to their area of self-interest and fail to recognize when the audience they are trying to reach just doesn't care that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMactavish Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 2:08 PM, Dr.Santiago said: Keep posted regarding a project that will encompass 30,000 square meters of construction and will be built in ONE PHASE Area = length X width. https://www.convert-me.com/en/convert/area/?u=m2&v=30%2C000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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