windstar Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Has anyone eaten Botete from the fish stores in Ajijic. They call Botete - Monkfish. It is not Monkfish. Botete is actually Puffer fish or Blowfish. Is the Botete from the Mazatlan area, west coast Mexico safe to eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyfull Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Just ate Monkfish at Tabarka's a few minutes ago. Delicious. If I get sick or die I will let you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el bartman Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I have eaten botete from Pacifico Fish Store in Ajijic. Never have I heard of Monkfish referenced as Botete. You are right, Botete is the deadly Puffer. What they told me botete was was some harmless fish that I've long forgotten but will never buy. Don't want to be Dead Right. The classic joke in Mexico is that if you walk down the beach and approach five different groups of fishermen who have all caught the same species of fish, and you ask each of them for the species name, you will go home with five different names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned small Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 8:55 AM, el bartman said: I have eaten botete from Pacifico Fish Store in Ajijic. Never have I heard of Monkfish referenced as Botete. You are right, Botete is the deadly Puffer. What they told me botete was was some harmless fish that I've long forgotten but will never buy. Don't want to be Dead Right. The classic joke in Mexico is that if you walk down the beach and approach five different groups of fishermen who have all caught the same species of fish, and you ask each of them for the species name, you will go home with five different names. The same thing happens when asking directions of 5 different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el bartman Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Ask Directions? I'm a guy, I don't need no directions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichosalocura Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I always thought botete was puffer fish too. Are there any local sushi guys that are trained in this fish? In Japan it requieres a trained pufferfish expert to prepare these fish and even with their trained expertise accidents and poisonings occur from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bournemouth Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 We were given puffer fish to try by a friend in Sonora, who sold fish - he told us that the locals liked it and anytime he recommended something to us, it was always good. We plucked up our courage, figuring he didn't want to lose our business in the future, ate it and it was delicious. However, it was the only time we tried it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I would hope there is more than one type of puffer fish. The ones the Japanese prepare takes an expert who know how to drain the blood. The poison of that fish does not eliminate from our system and will kill you so I do not see the Mexicans selling it and eating it freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeser Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 The Bullseye Puffer is being farmed in aquaculture in Jalisco and in Sonora by the Institute of Aquaculture and Fisheries of the State of Jalisco (IAPEJ) y el IRTA and by the Technology Development Center of Marine Species (CEDETEM), which is located in the Municipality of Tomatlán in the State of Jalisco. Article here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Thank you geeser. that makes more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cartero Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 The bullseye puffer, when googled, says it's known as botete diana in Mexico. So botete equals puffer as Windstar said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 yes but it is different from the one in Japan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrisroom@aol.com Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 03/15/2017 at 7:09 PM, Joyfull said: Just ate Monkfish at Tabarka's a few minutes ago. Delicious. If I get sick or die I will let you know So you have already set up internet in both places in case you do die so you can email us all to let us know? Oh and what are they charging you and what kind of hi speed is available, I bet the lower place only has dial-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windstar Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Very interesting that Botete is being farmed. It is delicious & inexpensive. Thank you Geeser for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Saltos Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 3/15/2017 at 7:09 PM, Joyfull said: Just ate Monkfish at Tabarka's a few minutes ago. Delicious. If I get sick or die I will let you know David serves Monkfish, not botete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cartero Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Just back from Pacifico the fish store. They call monkfish botete. No if's an's or but's about it. Also a couple of other names.. We have been eating lots of monkfish since Tabarka first opened their doors in Ajijic. Still kickin'. I seem to recall it was called 'the poor man's lobster'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windstar Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 6 hours ago, El Saltos said: David serves Monkfish, not botete! Makes me wonder as Monkfish is a north atlantic speci not easy to get fresh in Mexico. It can be imported to Mexico but would be called Rape. I tend to think that Tabarka is selling what he is told is monkfish. It appears that the texture & flavor might be similar. In any case I am quite comfortable eating Botete, absolutely delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Saltos Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 I think David knows fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillenparadise Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 So where does one purchase real monkfish to prepare at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobita Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 On 3/18/2017 at 5:32 PM, windstar said: Makes me wonder as Monkfish is a north atlantic speci not easy to get fresh in Mexico. It can be imported to Mexico but would be called Rape. I tend to think that Tabarka is selling what he is told is monkfish. It appears that the texture & flavor might be similar. In any case I am quite comfortable eating Botete, absolutely delicious. I have no information on what is actually being sold here, but there is a species of monkfish, Lophiodes caulinaris, which inhabits shallow waters of the eastern Pacific from the Gulf of California south. So it's entirely feasible -- if not certain -- that monkfish is actually monkfish, locally. They do have a distinctive shape, so if one saw the whole fish, one could theoretically verify ... https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=S3NmjXkK5GoC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=lophiidae+eastern+pacific&source=bl&ots=BrDwp-6yX4&sig=FtfY3VHy0QGyXfBDB5z0A9OAouU&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=lophiidae eastern pacific&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyvmx Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 My parents grew up in Miami, FL. As a young poor married couple they ate lots of puffer fish. My dad caught and cleaned them and my mom cooked them. They said it was delicious. Then an article came out in the Miami Herald about the blowfish having a sack inside that if punctured when cleaned it would poison the fish meat with a deadly toxin that would kill you. They never ate another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrod Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 On 3/19/2017 at 10:42 AM, El Saltos said: I think David knows fish. And I believe the menu shows monkfish as "rape," as do several dictionaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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