ericandleslie Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 There appears to be a squatter camp on the beach at the bottom of La Cristina. What's the background story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsnob Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 They have been there for as many years as I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newjersey expat Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Come a little east to LaCanacinta and see the squatter fishing village. They use to stay a few weeks but this time it is several months. It isn't noisy but more a matter of hygiene. The area is full of clutter and I don't what to know what they use for a bano. Environmentally they are placing very wide area nets and capturing little fish that have not had a chance to mature. So soon we will see the lake depleted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 And this is your business HOW????? Remember you are not in your "own" country, wherever that might be...... and no Mexican asked you to come here and tell them how to change what they've be doing for generations, whether you like it that way or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contadina Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 46 minutes ago, Natasha said: And this is your business HOW????? Remember you are not in your "own" country, wherever that might be...... and no Mexican asked you to come here and tell them how to change what they've be doing for generations, whether you like it that way or not. Agree, well said. Stand by for criticism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblin238 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Um can we complain about it if we are from the U.S. and it happens in the U.S.? Yes please tell us what is and is not off limits? YET...I see many Mexicans that come to the U.S. yet are waving Mexican flags asking for change...Hmm...I wonder if you are just as righteous as to tell them the same thing. Methinks not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contadina Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Told Ya'! Didn't take long. Only 15 minutes. Hobgoblin, are you suggesting the board change to no opposing opinions? Would be quite boring. Methinks yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suegarn Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 48 minutes ago, Hobgoblin238 said: Um can we complain about it if we are from the U.S. and it happens in the U.S.? Yes please tell us what is and is not off limits? YET...I see many Mexicans that come to the U.S. yet are waving Mexican flags asking for change...Hmm...I wonder if you are just as righteous as to tell them the same thing. Methinks not. I haven't heard about too many Mexicans going to the U.S. and asking for change, Hobgoblin238. And your 'potential' President (god forbid!) wants to build a wall between the countries.......good luck with that idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Don't start with the politics or this will be a dead thread as soon as it's spotted. Besides, it's just starting to get interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bennie2 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 mexicans can demostrate (in US) cross country waving mex flags 24/7. @ times can be violent, smashing police cars attacking people. they are protected & have la raza/fed gov/refugee orgs supporting them. they want their land back, & dont like a political candidate. we are no allowed to do anything here, not even 1/10th. equality? i say not. knowing that, its best to mind your biz. talk about it fine. action? no way. seriously, i wouldnt worry about some small fish in the lake. as for cleanliness? have your mex neighbors complain. (not you). bennie has spoken. (edited added info) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericandleslie Posted May 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Is there any crime associated with the canacinta fishermen. Do they cause trouble, or do they just live and work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo1 Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 5 hours ago, Newjersey expat said: Come a little east to LaCanacinta and see the squatter fishing village. They use to stay a few weeks but this time it is several months. It isn't noisy but more a matter of hygiene. The area is full of clutter and I don't what to know what they use for a bano. Environmentally they are placing very wide area nets and capturing little fish that have not had a chance to mature. So soon we will see the lake depleted again. Newjersey--the little fish they are catching are probably charale. Full grown they are only finger length. Haven't you seen them for sale all fried up on the Chapala malecon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexilady Posted May 14, 2016 Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 OK everyone. I have lived in La Cristina for almost 11 years. During my time here the family living at the edge of the lake have been here. In the early years there were horses, cattle and goats that all lived and grazed down there. Suddenly one day the rich Tapatios living on an occasional weekend enclave decided that they wanted the lake front for themselves. We then were subjected to dump trucks of dirt and rocks being delivered to the lake front 18 hours a day, a truck every 10 minutes. When we called the police about this disruption to our lives the police chief came out and shut them down and told us what to do to shut the entire operation down. We got together as a neighborhood and filed a denuncio, found out who held the local legal claim (there is a Mexican phrase to describe this but I forget right now) to the land. Over many weeks we had to keep calling the police to enforce the claim as the Mexican lakefront neighbors with all their power kept pulling down the police tapes and dumping crap to fill it all in to expand their lakefront land. Lives were threatened, people hid and finally we were forced to call in the press to help shed some light on it for us. Ultimately our local neighborhood gardener was found to hold claim to the lease, the squatters were there with his blessing, the wall that the Mexican neighbors had begun to build was pulled down and there was much rejoicing by all--especially the locals that took their horses there every day and the fishermen who kept their boats on the land. Today we still have a free and open, although badly overgown lakefront that all can use. The system worked for us and we are a proud mixed neighborhood that look out for one another at all times. It is a great place to call home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasha Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 On 5/14/2016 at 8:01 PM, contadina said: Agree, well said. Stand by for criticism! Yeah, I knew it when I posted.... but sometimes I just can't stop myself....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalu Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 Oh good grief EricandLeslie, are you trying to Troll? This is the second time you started this thread (search it). the first one already answered your question. Posting the same question a second time in such a short time smacks of wanting to stir up the crazies. So maybe you guys are bored and finding out that maybe your recent move here is less exciting than you thought it would be? Maybe you could practice being a good neighbor by NOT stirring up trouble for the local hardworking folks. They sure don't deserve to be victims of your boredom. Find another hobby, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcscats Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 On 5/14/2016 at 10:05 PM, bennie2 said: mexicans can demostrate (in US) cross country waving mex flags 24/7. @ times can be violent, smashing police cars attacking people. they are protected & have la raza/fed gov/refugee orgs supporting them. they want their land back, & dont like a political candidate. we are no allowed to do anything here, not even 1/10th. equality? i say not. knowing that, its best to mind your biz. talk about it fine. action? no way. seriously, i wouldnt worry about some small fish in the lake. as for cleanliness? have your mex neighbors complain. (not you). bennie has spoken. (edited added info) Must be hell being you. The law is in place in Mexico to keep outsiders from being involved in Mexican government as happened in the past. Example Maximillan appointed by European powers to run Mexico. Don't think this situation applies to US other than Poncho Villa invading Arizona. If you really look we have many more rights here as Mexican residents than USA residents. Denying us certain Political rights is a small part of our rights in Mexico. Try reading History of Mexico and the law makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmh Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 There are squaters here and there on the shore. Mostly fishermen.. We have walked the area for 15 years and never had a problem with them.They do leave a lot of trash around and could be asked to clean up but otherwise they are nice people just making a living..SOme of them are from Ocotaln and other places..I rather have them that all these walls and fences the rich are building as they are stealing the land from everyone. The take over of the land by the Tapatios has been going on for a long time and it is really offensive as people use the lake to walk to work and now many places are not accessible any longer. The land is being taken over by people who do not use it but prvent others from using it. There used to be heards of cows and horses grazing there and now you cannot walk it..that is offensive to me not the guys who are fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericandleslie Posted May 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 11 hours ago, Semalu said: Oh good grief EricandLeslie, are you trying to Troll? This is the second time you started this thread (search it). the first one already answered your question. Posting the same question a second time in such a short time smacks of wanting to stir up the crazies. So maybe you guys are bored and finding out that maybe your recent move here is less exciting than you thought it would be? Maybe you could practice being a good neighbor by NOT stirring up trouble for the local hardworking folks. They sure don't deserve to be victims of your boredom. Find another hobby, please. I don't remember asking this question before (early onset?) and I assure you that I'm not trolling. You presume to know quite a lot about about my life, who I am, and what motivates me. I promise you, you know nothing. Your hostility and arrogance indicates an unhealthy pathology and I'm concerned for you. Their are some really good therapists in the area that could help you feel better, if you PM me I can give you a good recommendation. Peace, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalu Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 LOL, hit a nerve did I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvsdawgs Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 On 5/14/2016 at 7:12 PM, Natasha said: And this is your business HOW????? Remember you are not in your "own" country, wherever that might be...... and no Mexican asked you to come here and tell them how to change what they've be doing for generations, whether you like it that way or not. Did I miss a post where someone wants to change something? The OP was asking for a history, never mentioned anything about change, just asked a question. Do people look for something to criticize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVGRINGO Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 There, their.......Confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hud Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 3 hours ago, lcscats said: If you really look we have many more rights here as Mexican residents than USA residents. In my 17 years here, I have not found these. I would greatly appreciate you listing these rights that I have here that USA residents do not have. TIA ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo1 Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 55 minutes ago, Hud said: In my 17 years here, I have not found these. I would greatly appreciate you listing these rights that I have here that USA residents do not have. TIA ! You can get away with much more here than in the States because law enforcement is lax. But that does not equate to more rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericandleslie Posted May 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 1 hour ago, RVGRINGO said: There, their.......Confused? My bad. I had only been awake for five minutes. It doesn't bother me enough to edit it, and besides, the grammar police need entertaining too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Berca Posted May 15, 2016 Report Share Posted May 15, 2016 And another thread bites the dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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